I don't really like the halo/glow around the iron sights, it looks pretty weird. but the rest is nice, good job!

I'm not trying to troll, but M-4 =/= Commando.
CAR-15 = Commando. Get my drift?

Okay, on topic. These are really great guns, might I suggest BLOCKY iron sights? If you'd like, I'll make them.

Soap, stop doing your -______________-' face, it pi$ses me off

peetty cool but larger ur demension with the m16 i made i make it wide enough so the handel was the real ironsights btw i think u stole this i saw this somewhere from a whiole ago same exact model :l

Nice mod. I would just recommend trying to do blocky ironsights. I for one don't use guns without them.

Ye i downloaded it, it close but not the same. I was also worryied it was a take off of the spoiler i had just realised for my pack.

I Promise I didn't steal it. I made it myself, modfied off the vanilla SMG skin. If they look similar to another pack, it's merely because we made the same gun, and may have even used the same pictures. Just a coincidence.

And to KomradeLaMe:
I have pictures now. They are the bottom two links, they are on mediafire, and are NOT a download, you can see them without downloading.

That M4 looks very firmilyer, maybe the mod section on the aos website. Looks very like ajexs or how ever u spell his name.

Could we have some pics? Imgur or imageshack are great pic sharing sites. You could use one of those.

Thanks man, nice to hear feedback like that.

Its decent nice work.

Ok guys so 0.60 is out, and now EVERYONE is using the smg. So, I decided to make a modpack of the Colt M-4 Commando, my favourite weapon.

I believe this gun is in Black Ops, but I don't really know because I don't have a PS3 or Xbox. :(

This isn't finished, and I shall be updating the pack so you can have attachments such as an ACOG sight or a M203 Grenade launcher.

So here is the download:
http://www.mediafire.com/?z3zy7yvnwi74zee

And here are some piccies:
M-4 Iron sights http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=sa2jza5uhavvoeq&thumb=4
M-4 in-game http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=2c44oji7fd3bgmw&thumb=4

(Don't worry about the players looking different in the second pic, it's my other ModPack, and if the rifle in the background looks different, thats a ModPack I HAVEN'T EVEN RELEASED YET! :D )

Please give feedback and respond if anything goes wrong while using it.

Thanks and have fun!

I think it's easyer to get 10+ kill streaks with the rifle than smg :p
shotgun is useless thoug, that's the real problem.

I beg to differ.
http://ace-spades.com/forums/topic.php?id=7348

@Soap: Nice talking to you, too.

@Kanye: While I've seen that a lot, I wasn't complaining about the SMG being underpowered at any point. I didn't even mind the first, leaked version, when a lot of other people were whining about it non-stop.

@Danke: That was referring to fog-distance engagements only. Engagements at all ranges considered, I was on fire.

@Pulchritude: You're right to classify it as an assualt rifle. It feels almost exactly like the assualt rifles found in many other shooters now, and I liked AoS so much in the first place because the gun mechanics were special.

My idea: SMG power drops after certain distance, making it mid-range weapon, and having a good reason for AR. Gravity affected bullets would make a nice place for the sniper rifle. And vehicles for heavier weapons (RPG's, mountable machine guns, mortars, etc). Melee attack for weapons. Anything else? Oh yeah, Pick-shovel! A combination of a pick and a shovel! (example: http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Folding-Shovel-and-Pick/dp/B0009PUTES )

^thats what I think too ;D

Heres what I think.
Increase the spread once it gets past meduim range more then BAM we have long, medium, and short range weapons.

It's really not that bad. I just jump and duck around and then when I hear them reloading I go in for the kill.

The US Army defines assault rifles as "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachinegun and rifle cartridges.

and if Dany0's post is true, which is located http://ace-spades.com/forums/topic.php?id=7158#post-119448

Then yes, I'd consider it an AR.

Assault rifles are effective at ranges around 300m, which the current SMG is not.

If a proper AR is included in the game, it'd basically push away both the semi and the SMG, since it'd be superior to both of them at the ranges where you most encounter combat in the game.

Current iteration of the SMG is fine - it's a viable choice, but some people are still going to prefer the semi.

...or, arguably, the extremely pro. We're talking so pro you don't see the need for aimbots, though. Most players, myself included, have yet to obtain such a status.

As a regular semi user, this made me smile.

My idea:
Reduce the damage.
And swap out the shotgun for something more effective e.g assault rifle.

@Curl

I know that, but there is a high difference between a SMG and Assault Rifle.

The SMG is now an Assault Rifle and should be named as such.

yeah bitch I pretty much suck at this game, I know... I'm pretty much the worst player who's on the forum >.< and I can deal with that^^

I would like to see the smg with much more dmg 100;100;100 would fit very well ;D

"I won with the SMG... not quite as many times as I lost"
Isn't this the definition of underpowered?

What's the point of using a gun if it's less effective than another?

Sure. If you guys like the lighter recoil so much, then keep it. But change the dmg.

You need a 4 block thick wall to have cover against smgs =P

No.

I honestly can't see the problem with the SMG, I just finished another match on Goon Haven (I was playing as "Galaxy" this time) and I have no idea what all the fuss is about. I still manage to whoop most SMGers asses, and the few times that I did end up getting killed by one, it was either; A.) They shot me from the side/behind. B.) They shot me through a wall after I had already ducked (lag). The rifle still easily outmatches the SMG at all ranges.

While it's not a good argument (since it's subjective, then again, this whole "SMG is overpowered" thing is subjective), those of you who can't combat the SMG must just suck. No offense.

And yes, it does seem like more of an assault rifle/LMG, which is fine with me. I never wanted a SMG in the first place. Now all we need is a mountable machine gun, and I'll be somewhat satisfied.

@Pulchritude
it doesn't really matter what it's called since you can use a mod to make it look anyway you want.

cover =?
You need a 4 block thick wall to have cover against smgs =P

...you can still win at any range with the rifle. The shotgun is undoubtedly useless. Then again, a few of us had said that even before the shotgun was added. Now, the SMG is more like an LMG, and it's perfectly fine. I still manage to slaughter SMG users with a rifle; stay in cover, always make sure the enemy can only shoot you from one side (preferably head on, so you have a chance of reacting). But the bottom line, stay in cover. I played on Goon Haven earlier today (as GONSTER_GIBBLES) and I constantly saw a bunch of jackasses on my team just running out there in the open and getting slaughtered by SMGs. In most of the instances where me and the SMGer saw each other at the same time, I won the firefight with a quick headshot. The SMG is fine, leave it alone.