OK well few enough guns we have serve that singularly important purpose

what about the purpose of being cool

good one

Having a pistol would only delay the death of your ammo supply. The only thing that a pistol would possibly be useful for can be prevented entirely by watching your ammo counter and going back to the tent when you're low on ammo.

I don't see why people are still suggesting this. In terms of usefulness, a non-overpowered pistol would be on par with inflatable dartboards. There's no way to properly balance them and still have them serve a well-defined purpose.

I am not claiming its completely inaccurate I run a 7 inch pattern with my SW1911 vs the 10 inch pattern with the bodyguard on targets approximately 20 meters away.

now I have heard a lot of people cite barrel length and know what, I did not really know what the effect of a longer barrel really was I could think of a few things it would do like lengthening the rifling but according to some people the length of the rifling dose not necessarily matter any way about 50 % of people think barrel length matters and the other half think it dose not so from what I get from all this is that I REALLY depends on the type of bullet and all that shizaz some one claims to have seen some one shoot the same accuracy with a short barrel and a long barrel did not see any citation so its doubtful evidence mostly what I can see barrel length effecting is sight radius and the barrels length if you add enough to it can counter recoil similar to muzzle weights.

Unless you manage to shoot 60 rounds of rifle ammo and miss every single shot, I don't see that situation occuring.

From what I understand, most people don't want a pistol as it'll take up space and won't serve a purpose other than some fancy eye candy weapon or a humiliation weapon (ie. "HAHA I ONE SHOT YOU WITH MY WEAK PISTOL YOU MAD BRAH?").
On a good map, with decent teams, you'll rarely find yourself out of ammo, unless you spend the whole game camping.
I do like the looting idea as it means you can restock on the field instead of having to retreat back to CP. I mean with a pistol you can solve the problem of "what happens when I run out of ammo" but it causes a new problem, "what do I do when I run out of pistol ammo?".

In regard to the revolver vs. semi automatic pistol accuracy, you seem to have gotten your argument against thunder from "http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081001071316AA7Hhd7" via C&P, meaning you did not write this and most likely, you probably don't know what you're saying.
Revolvers are more accurate because:
1. Longer barrel than most pistols. Let's take a look at one of the most common revolvers in the world, the Smith and Wesson Model 10, then look at the colt 1911.
See a difference? Notice how the revolver barrel is at least 50% longer than the 1911's.
Second reason, the sight are mounted right at the barrel, not on some casing as the 1911, which again, leads to an increase of accuracy by the user.
Also, thunder's video is very relevant seeing as how much skill it takes to shoot the coin, I mean if revolvers are as inaccurate as you claim, said shot would've been impossible since the bullet would've gone off in some other direction because it was "deformed".

You trolling Thunderstorm? More like thunderstorm trolling you, seeing as how mad you were getting because he didn't like your idea.

Personally I don't want pistols in the game, Thunderstorm covered all of it and then some.

^^ohh thanks, now i can stop trolling thunder XD

thunder is a dumb-ass that's all i am saying his initial proof that revolvers are more accurate is non existent in that scenario its the shooters skill not the weapons accuracy. an auto loader will in most cases be more accurate than a revolver because a revolver's bullet must jump from the chamber in the cylinder to the barrel. The bullet is slightly deformed during this action because the chamber and barrel's forcing cone are never in exact alignment An auto loaders chamber and barrel are one piece eliminating this problem.

In my experience I can shoot a tighter grouping with my S&W built 1911 then a S&W bodyguard and the bodyguard I had came with a laser sight they are both chambered in .38

that said on the topic of ammo and restock dose it HURT the game to add it? it will make some people happy and the people who don't like them don't have to use them.

a pistol would be a welcome item if it had unlimited reserve ammo but the pick axe hit harder. remember allot of times people will not be able to access there victims bodies for one reason or another.

Boyo, overall, rifles are the most made firearm.
Pistols is most in private ownership as someone said above.

Pistols would be completely and utterly useless though in the situation that they have to be used in.
Rifle out ranges and out DPS's them
SMG will mow you down in half a second
Shotty is 1HKO at CQC

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You seem pretty mad to me :P

Anyways, dude, a pistol would be useless. Sorry, but there's no point in Ben wasting his time on a worthless "Backup" weapon, when he could be working on something that could improve the game, like helicopter hats. Or mounted machine-guns, either one.

mad? me? Noo no,, i rather sitting here laughting, at what? at you dont undrestanding what the game is

I think it is a pretty nice suggestion, I'm not sure if it would fit the style of the game though.

do we see a lot off smoke that blinds anyone going in, or is it a fast flash and anyone inside it get blinded by x amount of seconds? :p

I don't think that flash grenades is a good idea, maps are way too open for that, but i agree that they shouldn't damage friendly soldiers. i think smoke(which has been suggested and thought out before) is a better idea, because it would probably have more uses on large maps.

Ill try it out. I enjoy minecraft, but have a hard time playing with mods and tp's :P

Gamebooster helps me a lot with minecraft

Yea i recommend you this http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html

Btw, DE... flash bangs have to do a little damage.

@Zeke, you could always download the latest version of your drive. Also, download a hardware accelerator

lol zeke i use the fam laptop same windows and the same spec i think and i dont lag during disco also here is proof that muncher did it

http://ace-spades.com/forums/topic.php?id=6438&replies=39#post-106321

Lol I dont have an upgraded video card driver as others. That's why this should be discussed :P BRAVO.

It might not be your CPU. You have to consider you video card, too. Also, a hardware accelerator may not be present.

No he didnt mucnher also did so DONT USE MY LAST NAME!

Really?! I actually lag a bit during disco :P My cpu cant take things immediately as others :P The more the colors flash the slower my cpu goes. Think of it as running and sopping. After awhile you get tired and just faint :P

Lol Kanye first person to make that post in this thread. BRAVO!

hurr durr cod suggestion

CPU has the least to do with. Take the disco script for example. It changed color really fast. When I do disco on my server, the cpu hardly changes. The disco script and this flash bang concept would require the same thing, fast color changing. Which the same as disco, would hardly lag.

However, since it is a flash bang, the color would take up the whole screen, leaving the player blind for a couple second. If the whole screen was 1 solid color, then CPU and memory usage would increase a little but depends on your computer.

Like I said, it depends.

Lag? lol all it has to do, is when the nade goes off. A white ong screen is layed over your vision, stored server side so you cant change it to a transparent one.

Accompanied by your sounds cutting out, and being replaced with a whinning, like a real Flash Bang.

Yeah. I notice many of the popular people deal with it. People dont want to get kicked every time a flash bang hits them :P No fun at all );

Agreed Zeke

^ I agree. I just want things to be easier for everyone. Not everyone is running the latest cpu you know :P

@Zeke... lag would depend.