the thing with knives is they themselves don't make a sound but the victims may... oh you meant the game.. okay aim,shoot,don't miss.

SMG: For short to medium range, crouch, aim down your sights, and fire in 3 round burst. Full auto occasionally works as well (some reason it worked for me earlier at a long range, it was fucking ridiculous and the guy called me rude names.) At long ranges you need to fire single shots while crouching.

Semi: Aim for the head and shoot.

Also, I think knives are a good idea. Big, fuck-off shiny ones. Ones that look like they could skin a crocodile.

Knives are good, because they don't make any noise, and the less noise they make, the more likely you are to use them. Shit 'em right up. Makes it look like you're serious.

Guns for show, knives for a pro.

Grab the rifle and aim form the head! Don't forget to crouch and circle strafe!

Oh my god Woogle, you're so creepy.

If you want to make it easier then useing your hands then I recomend using piano wire or if you are cheap a plastic bag. Not paper or any kind of fabric! Air can get through them! But really...killing people is an awful way to make friends.

Sometimes i always get killed every time that is making me mad. I want to know is there some way to kill someone easier.

Ah, I suppose. But the chances of spawning near the intel are pretty low.

The problem Alex is pointing out there is that it means you're invincible but capable of killing for five seconds, potentially near the intel. That could make defense overpowered against raids.

Basically, I want a system that prevents spawnCAMPING without preventing spawnkilling or camping seperately.

No, invincibility shouldn't affect whether you can kill people or interact with anything or not.

You should simply be invincible 5 seconds after spawning.

the problem with the invincibility is that you could be running for the intell, then get shot in the face by a guy u saw but couldn't kill, so invisibility without being able to interact is probably better

It's pretty annoying, Fluttershy. Then again, I spawncamp as much as possible because I suck at this game. I'm not against getting rid of it, however.

Of course in some maps (hallway) 90% of the action is spawn camping and counter-spawn camping

nah, i like spawn killing and have been the subject of it before. its not that annoying.

I think I agree with Kaede-chan, it is also a thing most other games do, and it seems to work enough

Could be implemented in pyspades I guess ┐('～`；)┌
Not the invisibility thing, though.

Me, I'm gentlemany enough to avoid shooting freshly spawned dudes, unless they appear with their gun pointing at me.

To be honest I've never been spawnkilled more than once in a row-- chances are you'll pop up somewhere else, and then you can hunt the offending faggot down instead.

Pretty cool I guess. Or just be invincible the first 5 seconds. It's a tiny bit more realistic.

After thinking about how annoying spawncamping is (not to be confused with spawnkilling people as they pass through, which is acceptable to me. It's when the twerp sits there for half an hour killing you repeatedly that's a pain), I came up with a nice preventative idea:

When you respawn, you're both invisible and unable to interact with the game environment in any way except to move around in it. This lasts for a very short time ( t < 5 seconds) before you become visible and are able to build, fight, shoot, etc.

Camping in general isn't a huge problem (it was certainly a major part of WWI), and spawnkilling people as you're passing through is understandable, but I can't think of any real combat where people magically appeared in battles... this mechanic will provide more of an illusion of marching in as a real soldier would. By extension, if nobody magically appeared in battles, people couldn't wait around for them to appear so they could shoot them before they got their bearings.

So, good idea? Bad idea? Middling? What do you think?