yeah, and add bullet penetration model to see what internal organs of deuces are damaged, ofc based on a age of a player, add helicopter hats with combusion engines fueled by coal mined by miners paid from Ben's pocket, add stockmarket to make coal prices fluent, remeber that since price is fluent, we need rubber bullets, water turrets, batons, shields etc etc to force miners work when they want to strike, or just dont want to mine. Add item shop to let Ben have money for miners etc.

Helicoper hats could be also fueled by jew combusion, and deuces should build as many as possible swastikas around to have more fuel.

Really, most of your ideas are somewhat like mine writed above.

also
"Making weapons server-sided things would be awful. That means me and everyone else including yourself would have to adjust to different play styles and weapon properties on each server we go to. And I'm not just going to get good on one specific server for this. Although this idea seems like a romantic-idealistic prophecy that you can now make rocket launchers or buff your favorite weapon some, it's not going to work with a game such as this. Think about more weapons instead. "
No. Read my post again and find out why.

Yorkshire said:

But server admins have God Blocks, Flying, and Invisibility. Therefore they have an advantage over us and are the real hackers.

For some reason I want to comment on it. First, those are all pyspades features/hacks. Do those ideas need to be incorporated into the vanilla server.

God Blocks:
Being able to place blocks that cant be removed, goes against the spirit of the game. However limiting an individuals right to place and remove blocks is a great admin feature. I hope something similar gets implemented into vanilla.

Flying:
Flying for all is a bad feature. Flying for admins I think is a good feature and I would like to see it in vanilla.

Invisibility:
Admins absolutely need this on vanilla. And yes it should be restricted to only admins

I'm afraid so :(

If anyone took this serious they may be retarded.

Sometimes it's hard to tell if people are being sarcastic or not on the internet, but in this case it was very, very, obvious.

I heard learn_more had a config like this.

Wait, wait. Do you guys mean you *dont* have these options in your config file?

As it is, the rifle dominates long and close range.
Even if you manage to reach a rifle user in close range when you use the SMG, he'll just headshot you with no warning whatsoever (unless you flank).

My solution would be to nerf the damage based on range, the rifle would do more damage in mid-long range while the SMG (and shotgun) would dominate in close-mid range.

No other nerf required, as it would prevent "sniper-smgs", "shotgun-rifles" and "useless shotguns".
We could also add a pistol, it would be required for most weapons if my fix is added.

Well this has all been hilarious.

I was hoping some dunce would accuse me of using the hacks listed in the config file, with that picture as proof. But I guess the community has SOME brains. :P

@Soap:
The fact that everyone else has been making sarcastic comments from the word go, it would suggest that this is a joke thread - which it is.
If your argument hadn't contained the little extra inappropriate comments, I'd have been alright to let it continue, but you stepped a little over the line. You are warned.

Topics like these are not worth arguing about, it's just wrong by default.

ITT: We find out Soap is a gentleman and a scholar.
(I'm not surprised).

So...I win?

wow there is some bad wording going around here and some negative vibes

anyway, I think this idea might work in some type of form, but it would be pretty different, and probably exists already, anyway

Congratulations, you're a necrophiliac. :P

And yeah, are you stupid or something? This has been the biggest joke the whole time, and the only reason I kept it up was because your arguments against it are retarded.

@Everybody One thing about me: I'M SERIOUS. Don't take sarcasm and joking well unless they actually say it. That's why I don't like to deal w/ trolls like Reuben or Dany0, as you guys can see. So yeah, thanks for trying to "defend" (?) me from him, but honestly, I just don't even know anymore. Normally I have to deal w/ direct insults and other crap, but it gets really annoying when I have situations like this and nobody actually tells me that it's just trolling. So yeah, thanks for the memo guys, at least somebody did it in the end. :)

Hey, even BooBoo said it-

"On the internet, yes it can be hard to tell if someone joking/being sarcastic"

So yeah you guys probably know where I'm coming from. :P

Comment removed. ~tGM

Reuben is a natural troll. Post a clearly sarcastic topic, get raged at. Bravo.

@soap

On the internet, yes it can be hard to tell if someone joking/being sarcastic, but Reuben has made it very clear he is joking. Now stop making a fool out of yourself.

what if we have a map with hacks turned on so hackers can do what the feck they want to on that one map

this idea is better than aids :D

This is a fantastic idea!

Soap, seriously, you might want to shut up before you make even more of a fool of yourself.

Didn't I just clearly state that this whole thread was a joke? I doubt Reuben was any more serious than I was (although I won't blame him, at least not too much, if he denies any humor so he can go on making you look even more foolish).

Your tears are delicious, Soap. Could you cry up a bit more so I can finish my meal?

Let's put it in a scenario then:

[Everybody activates aimbotting]

You: O-[ABd]-G-[ABd]-S-[ABd]...
Everybody else: ^

AKA it would just be like you getting massacred by other people w/ hacks, but this time, EVERYBODY is using those advantages, including you, but it's not nearly enough to actually get you anywhere. Also notice that it basically lacks any gameplay from the actual PLAYER, so...

...

If you can't understand how making it so that the game takes virtually no effort or can't be played at all ruins the point of it, then just go play this "fantasy" of a game alone.

Soap, chill. Allow me to introduce you to a concept called sarcasm.

Not that anyone's been using that in this thread or anything.

There you go, one neat example. Contemplate it logically and eventually you'll realize what's going on.

Back to your homework, whippersnapper!

If anything, one asshat on a server aimbotting everything ruins the game. How would everyone being equal ruin the game?

Yeah, from the ideas you guys have mentioned just now, adding more pellets COULD work actually... :S

@BooBoo Well considering that Reuben hasn't admitted that yet makes me think otherwise man... Once HE tells me that it's not serious, THEN I'll believe you, because his persisitence says otherwise.

@Reuben

"Soap, your argument is still flawed."

Best arguement since WWII.

/sarcasm

I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY IT'S AN ADVANTAGE BY DOING THAT, I'M TRYING TO SAY THAT CHANGING THE ASPECTS OF THE GAME LIKE THAT WOULD RUIN TEH GAME COMPLETELY BECAUSE IT WOULD COMPLETELY ELIMINATE EVERY FUN PART OF THE GAME THAT IS ALREADY IMPLEMENTED.

Now shut up already Reuben, I still have a lot of homework to do and it's 10:30 over here.

TL;DR I didn't read it either. :L

the shotgun's range is fine, you can get a lot of medium range kills pretty easily, with it. I only think it needs more pellets, or more damage per shot, because it is sometimes inconsistent, even at close range. more pellets would probably be better, though, because it would be able to get more kills with one shot, which is kind of a thing missing in most shotguns nowadays in video games

Soap, your argument is still flawed. It's not an advantage.

@Soap

This is a joke, if you weren't aware. -__________________________________________-