@galaxy
What I meant by "shovel acts like pick" is that the shovel would only remove one block at a time, not 3, no matter which mouse button you press. I see no reason why this would harm the game-play other than making tunnels more difficult to dig and/or make greifing/fortress sapping just take a bit longer.

I agree with getting rid of the pick though, it seems a bit redundant to me (it seems odd to me to have 2 types of digging tools).

The reason I say this is because I see the way the shovel digs 3 blocks as overpowered, (as stupid as that sounds), It makes tunneling way to easy (it should be a long term effort and be quite a bit more risky). however this is my own opinion and your welcome to differ in your own seeing this is a forum.

Having the shovel have pick as an alternative attack is an awesome Idea,
If anything is going to collect a block from digging into it, Its going to be a shovel.

Have you ever tried to use a pick on dirt? Its made for stone!
Not to mention right now a pick to the face does no damage,
Try doing that! In real life.

It makes much more sense for the shovel to have a "conservative dig" where the soldier shapes the dirt into a block, as well as a "fury dig" where collection is not the goal.

Removing the pick in this way would easily free up an Item slot for a weapon like a pistol, an Item that seems to be popular amongst most forum members.

If you make pick=pick+shovel then i will not be able to predict what the griefer is going to do.

@grendle

"why not just remove the pick and have the shovel act like one (a pick), it certainly would prevent the MASSIVE TUNNEL WARZ that go on as either team hallows out the mountains.

have the shovel also be able to act as a melee weapon. "

...did you even bother to read the suggestion?

Or are you one of those people who just sits around waiting for their turn to speak?

I like this suggestion. Freeing up the item slots would really help as would moving them around. As Beret mention the rife needs to be in slot 1. I've died plenty of times trying to take out a rifle but getting a block or grenade instead.

And what, sir, is wrong with Tunnel Warz??!?

why not just remove the pick and have the shovel act like one (a pick), it certainly would prevent the MASSIVE TUNNEL WARZ that go on as either team hallows out the mountains.

have the shovel also be able to act as a melee weapon.

I like this suggestion, both becasue it simplifies digging and harvesting, and because soldiers don't carry pickaxes around everywhere, as mentioned...

On first read of this I was quite against it, since the two items do very different things.

However, I can now see how this would work. The left click would be the shovel doing small hammering-like movements on a block, literally imitating how the pick currently acts.
The right click could then be used for the bigger shovel movements.

It makes it slightly less friendly to the newcomers, but it does free up an inventory space. And seeing that there's scope to adding more weapons, inventory spaces may need to be available (unless it's a 'pick-weapon-upon-spawn' implementation, and the ability to change weapon at your CP would be nice in that case).

Having a lazy eye is a bad thing.

Why can't my eyes focus when I try to read your posts?

I think he's an abusive alcoholic that is in an abusive relationship where his girlfriend beats him. which is why he is somad online.

p.s. the stickman is making kissy faces.

Real original
By the way your avatar pisses the shit out of me. what the hell is that and why is that stickman so furious?

Nomad is
Somad

i mean shit

Are you guys fucking high or something? I hate to be on the side of the weeaboo but shit, what kind of crack snorting asshole do you have to be to try to remove the pick. before you know it we'll have some goddamn ultimate tool which would be a rifle with a shovel as the butt, a grenade launcher on it, and a block-shitter duct taped to the side of it. now I don't know about you guys but if I was a soldier and saw that I had to carry that shit around i would be like "lol no" and go out there with my fists. seriously.

all I read was: "[suggestion] Remove the pick" as well as:
"pros: bunch of shit"
and
"cons: one sentence"

didn't read the entire post, so if he said it would be the same tool, cool.

I think I'm just too used to useful weapons being in the number 3 slot, since it's almost always knife, pistol, then mainstay weapon in other games.

Why not make it a knife, i've seen people use knives to dig.
http://i52.tinypic.com/2qva63p.jpg

Or a last item key

Yeah, this makes sense. i wouldn't mind seeing it happen.

Also I wish the rifle took the number 1 slot. It would be easier to instantly switch to when a builder finds themselves under fire. I've died a few times trying to switch quickly to the rifle, only to bring out the block and die.

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I think this is a good idea, and should be implemented. It frees up an item slot making things less cluttered. I always found having 2 seperate tools which do basically the same thing rather pointless.

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I didn't say he made sense, but in his mind he made sense because he didn't realize that the OP was saying that one button would be used as a pick, and the other as a shovel. Thinking with his mindset, that the pick would be gone and you'd only have a shovel, his pros (cons) make sense. I spent too much thought on this... but only for about 30 seconds :/

Except none of them made sense you baka

The pros were obviously the cons, and kawaii means cute :D thanks to my gf who taught me that, a year ago :p

rename the shovel to E-Tool as well

I said there is no downside.

I have no idea what you're talking about bro