Close the thread, please.

@Speng: My main qualm was the switch from "voice of reason" to "airer of opinions".

@Kaede: Alright.

I'm done talking about this.

Is it so hard to grasp the concept that building things that contribute no use to the fight should be griefed over things that do contribute?

Jesus, this is like fucking Phoenix Wright.

If I did, that's still just me. You can't just switch from declaring something is true about all griefers, then bring your own biases into this, expecting us all to agree.

>implying you didn't enjoy my suggestion to grief reddit
Only you can prevent forum fires.

No offense, but this comes off as rather high-and-mighty. Who says who the certain people are? One's own self. Your bias against reddit is only justified in your eyes, not mine, and to imply that we should only grief who you say is ridiculous.

>implying i draw penises and swastikas
wut
i don't build

Certain people, Reuben.
Not regular people just playing the game.

Fair enough, LSD. And since Kaede seemed to have missed my post, here it is again:
"So from what you're saying, it's better to piss people off and make them ragequit, than it is to build something which, albeit offensive, affects no-one personally and barely takes away from the CTF aspect of the game?
And you obviously don't have your point completely down. In the beginning you spoke of how griefers were all evil, and now you're saying there are some exceptions (autism, reddit, etc...). The fact that you're letting your personal bias affect this, along with the fact that you just outright exclaimed that this was how you said it was, not a hypothesis, makes me worry."

It's not that they're that offensive, they're immature and really don't have any place in the game.

Like drawing penises on the map. Seriously, guys. Go draw penises and swastikas in paint where nobody over the age of 14 has to see them.

do the buildings have a say in the matter

For the record Reuben that swastika is coming down anyway if it's not flat on the floor or covering my head

So from what you're saying, it's better to piss people off and make them ragequit, than it is to build something which, albeit offensive, affects no-one personally and barely takes away from the CTF aspect of the game?

And you obviously don't have your point completely down. In the beginning you spoke of how griefers were all evil, and now you're saying there are some exceptions (autism, reddit, etc...). The fact that you're letting your personal bias affect this, along with the fact that you just outright exclaimed that this was how you said it was, not a hypothesis, makes me worry.

Feeling schadenfreude doesn't mean you're a schizophrenic, it is what it is.
Now, putting swastikas up for the sheer purpose of pissing people off, that is wrong.
Destroying meaningless structures to make autists leave the server, is right.

Let's all stop being butthurt

Let's find a build server to grief

Let's find autistic kiddies building Sonichus and Fort Retards

Let's burn their women and rape their churches

Let's have fun

See, now you're just being ridiculous. You're letting your bias against reddit leak in to your opinions on this. This is the point I made on the swastika thread: either all griefing is justified, or none is.

And the fact that you're bringing up your irrelevant structure and reddit bias in a thread you made, labeling all griefers as basket cases doesn't really say much good about your beliefs.

yes. that we're evil devil subhuman scum.
you get the point. if you don't get the point after that essay then that's not my problem.

@Pineapples
If it doesn't cover my head then you better find the taste of autistic tears aesthetically pleasing

what if i build something aesthetically pleasing? :D

You're justified for griefing only when: The structure* in question is irrelevant to the gameplay.
*autistic

And against reddit users.

Also, feeling schadenfreude isn't a disorder, it's just an occurrence. It's like enjoying the taste of a certain kind of food.

All this thread was about was explaining griefer rationale, that is all.

Kaede, that had nothing to do with what I said. I'm saying picking and choosing in regards of griefing is just as bad as blindly griefing. And to say that by doing so, we have some kind of sadist mental disorder, is frankly ridiculous.

And why do you ignore jazz so much? He has a lot of well-thought-out points, while you have a Wikipedia article. And once more, one doesn't need to have every symptom of a disorder to have it.

fair enough.
so long as "justified griefers" such as myself aren't crucified for the bullshit on the forums. if you feel iffy about my statement here then re-read my essay
I stopped griefing things up front recently because i actually play and stuff and they actually shield me from being killed

You don't grief, LSD, you destroy worthless structures autists build. (which I have no problem with) There is a clear difference

I grief therefore I grief

And I never said I had a problem with that, jazz.

Only the people who grief useful structures, and especially the people who hop teams to do it, which is exploitation of game mechanics and cheating.

Griefing reddit (one small server, with one small group of people) is different than griefing every server without regard to who they are.

So you enjoy bringing grief to a certain group of people? Just like the Nazis, the KKK, etc... did to others? Does that mean that you're a racist, that you're prejudiced against others, that you'd burn down a black man's house because of his skin color?

No, but on "pretentious over-thinking of a video game" it does.

Why do I grief?

Because it's fun seeing autistic kids rage over stacked pixel blocks in an FPS game.

Jealous? Perhaps tHou should stop pRojecTing, Kaede.

i grief against the particular group of people that build useless things in cell A1.
i am schendensphill
therefore you are schendensphillenstarntz

It was. I'm not being hypocritical though, because that's the only griefing I've ever admitted to doing and enjoying, since it was against reddit, a particular group of people.