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shotgun rain!!!!!!!!!!!!!

not really, in fps there has to be more info on deaths and kills, say some kid is 5hours on server and has like 100kills, he goes bragging saying "ive been only 10min and i pwn" but if we had deaths it would be like this "100kills, 743 deaths 0 I.C. (intel cap) "

Spaz, that would pave the way for

"HAY LOOK AT MAI KD I PWN U NUBS I OWN"

But I do support intel cap.

^agreed and how much intel caps

Number of deaths to know how much we suck.

^Good idea

After 0.55, Ben should add an age restriction for the forums -.-

yes we need vehickels ps i cant spell and more guns

Menu would be nice rather than pressing esc once to leave, but I dont expect one to appear quite yet.

An options menu, that is all I ask.

i saw a old post about AoS and even ben posted he said (i cant remember much, but it went like this)
durr - maybe
huurrr- yes
furrrrr- no
vvurrrr- sure
puuurrr- later ;)

and landmines were a "yes"

The idea behind complete server output would be along the lines of: IP address, ID of the player and their name, chat messages, commands used, kills/deaths - things like that are shown in the server.exe console.
Then all of it would be saved in a continuous log of some form.
Would be very useful for server owners for ban-administering (etc).

Okay, I'm an idiot. What is "complete server output"? I'm assuming that means everything that goes on in the server will be recorded (via logs and the other method you mentioned)?

Ok guys, we had a conversation with Ben last night.

Few updates about the content of next version..
Firstly, a message limiter - with an automatic kicking feature, should hopefully help prevent the spamming.
I also believe he has made it so servers have more than a 1-ban limit, and an administrator list as well.
It's possible he may also allow for complete server output at some point - both in console and in log-form.

I'm starting to get used to and own with the new semi cone though :\
I wonder what the new weapon is, land mines? Vehicules are unnecassary for now.

That's exactly what a few others (including myself) have suggested. If the shotgun is implemented as a primary weapon, it's going to be damn near useless since most combat takes place at ranges of more than 30 feet. You should be able to equip it as a secondary weapon.

Unless Ben allows you to choose between buckshot and slug ammunition; that would greatly increase the shotgun's overall effectiveness.

So why couldn't we just carry two weapons at once? It's a game, so don't start relating to real-life...

If that were implemented, I could run around with a semi and a shotgun, for different kinds of kills.

Tactical shotgun anyone?

i dunno if a shotgun is useful in combat
you gotta get close up like the smg and that gets you killed by people with semis
but the good part almost everyone is gonna tryout the shotgun and get close (lol)
as griefer tool shotgun would be probably too dangerous since its spread could hit things besides it target

I bet the rifle gets an even bigger cone, and we get a superslow, superlame sniper rifle that just has the current rifle accuracy. And then we're forced to snipe with that forever :<

@SIMOX, what are you talking about, it's hilarious when I do that to people :D

I just have a taste for the shotgun, even IF it's useless from afar and what-not.

The world's not perfect, okay?

Ironically, I always end up getting up close to the enemy somehow. It's annoying because the weapons are literally 'too precise' and I'm always shot dead in up-close kills. Thus, I want shotgun.

Yeah, agreed with Sue. but if that's what the community is itching to use, so be it.

Shotgun would be quite annoying for the ones that can sneak around very well, but other than that it does seem a bit useless...

...or you could just get shot dead from 30 feet away by someone wielding a rifle or a SMG.

Your call.

I'm itching for a shotgun.

I could go Golden Olympia on everyone.

@Everyone who mentioned (or hinted at) the downright annoying server-side hit verification; thank you, and I agree.

And yes, I think Ben has heard enough complaints about the "lottery" rifle, I can almost guarantee that it is going to be fixed.

Rifle accuracy is getting fixed most likely, the whole fanbase has made it clear at this point that they hate the random accuracy and creator will most likely be doing something about it.

Also, agree with Toast.

It's kinda anoying when you hit a guy 3 times in a head, he sees you and kills you with a single shot.

I don't care about hit verifacation as much as I do removing the semi's cone. I'm not saying that client side is a bad call, though.