A medium range seems reasonable. Cant wait to see this because handguns have always been a fave in any shooter I've played, whether it sucks or not. <3

Here is my idea 1. recoil not lots but still some recoil 50-60 ammo. 6 bullets in each chamber . Damages 50 in head. 30 in body. 10 in feet or in arms. Range medium-low (cause then it will be sort of semi) also tty for adding secondry since i wanna ge CoD trick shots cause I CAN

I'm waiting for some kind of confirmation so then I can release my pistol pack. My pistol pack which I do not think I have finished...

seems like a bad idea and not needed for the game. what they need for update is only the change weapons no death thing or just two weapons. cause i run and gun alot and it would be great to switch from rifle to shotgun quickly. also they could just quicken the reload speed of the guns excluding the shotgun obviously

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Thats a period

^ this whole idea is just newbie whining that game is too hard, it will fuck all gameplay and change it to luck spam festival - so newbies would be pleased

^ obvious alt account is obvious.

"It will just makes firefights like with unlimited clips."

^ and no, as stated in the OP, ammo for the sidearm would be very low.

Sidearm is not a good idea. It will just makes firefights like with unlimited clips. But I know why you want it: you've get killed cause you can't aim, and waste all bullets to hit shit. Side arm won't improove your accuracy, just cause more SPAM. It just give noobs more luck to hit something, so they won't learn how to have good accuracy and how to save ammo. Trust me, if it won't be a game of luck, spam should be reduced.

The discussion about that is like this about helicopter hats. Hope sidearm will never be implemeted.

I think the sidearms should be like this:

15 bullets

2 Rounds

Have recoil as the semi

Range in-between shotgun and smg

Different guns or firing rates for each primary

love the idea
but i think it should have low recoil and it should allow you to tap quickly...very quickly

Why are you people commenting on a 3 month old thread?

EDIT: 3 months was an exaggeration!

^ LOL thats a sweet pack dude xD

I hope it comes out next update so I can update my mod pack(promotes self, how narcsistic?). http://ace-spades.com/forums/topic.php?id=6262

For one, there is no reason to carry around a sidearm when all the weapons can engage targets at short and mid range just fine, the only range where a pistol might be useful. Even being able to spam the pistol with 5 shots out withing 1.5 seconds wont make up for it. You only need .5 seconds, 1 for the SMG, to be killed by the rifle or shotgun at such a short range.
I can understand having a pistol for the shotgun, but then again, if you're running around in the open with a shotgun, you're doing something wrong.

Well that's the only situation where a pistol would be handy, when you run out of ammo completely/in your magazine. Of course the running out of ammo completely can be fixed, as was mentioned in the other thread, by looting corpses for weapons and ammunition. There. That problem is fixed.
How about the magazine? Simple. Try to take cover and reload. If no cover is available jump around and move left and right to throw off your enemy's aim until you're done reloading, which is only around 1.5 seconds, the same amount of time needed to pull out a sidearm and begin shooting it.
That puts you in an interesting position. Risk a (1.5 sec) reload for your main, superior weapon, or take out a shitty pistol and start firing away (also ~1.5 secs).
Which is the logical choice here?

your only really looking at the pistol as a weapon you will use when you run out of ammo.. swapping to the pistol immediately after emptying your mag in the heat of combat rather then reloading will likely become a popular strategy as well with the addition of an additional firearm immediately at your disposal leaves allot up to resourceful players.

What if you have shotgun, and the enemy is just to far away? or if you have rifle, but cant fire fast enough?

The sidearm will have very rapid rate of fire, with medium range. I wont be exessivly weak, just weaker then the three main guns,

"Damage to head: 30
Damage to body: 25
Damage to limbs: 20"

That mean youl kill them in 5 shots, even if you have poor aim, Rate of fire will be pretty high, youl put out 5 shots in around 1.3-1.4 seconds.

Hmm...
I still think it's a better idea to be able to pick up ammo and weapons from corpses which can negate situations where you run out of bullets, never forcing you to pull out a weak secondary weapon. Even then, what are your chance's of killing someone with it?
Enemy has shotgun? Your dead.
Enemy has rifle? Your dead.
Enemy has SMG? You're severely injured.

So with corpse looting it'll be more like:
your behind enemy lines, you just grabed the intel, you shoot a guy in the head and....*click* that was your last bullet.
You loot his corpse for ammo, then you run for your life, suddenly an enemy walks right out in front of you, gun in hand. You shoot him and he dies. x_x

^ your behind enemy lines, you just grabed the intel, you shoot a guy in the head and....*click* that was your last bullet.

You run for your life, suddenly an enemy walks right out in front of you, gun in hand. Without sidearm youd be screwed.

With sidearm, you can have it out and blast him as he appears.

It WILL be beneficial to gameplay.

I don't understand how it'll benefit gameplay.

The other pistol thread:

#90617
ante185
Member
Posted 3 weeks ago

Mine:

#74501
DeathEnhanced
The Grand Exterminator
Posted 1 month ago

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He basicly copied the mechanics of the gun, which i thought up myself, and edited them ever so slightly, wrote a less detailed and incredibly poor OP and then posted it,

"why? There's another perfectly good pistol thread right there." < mine was here first, and its a dam sight better, in all fairness he shouldent have made his thread, as this one already existed.

Pistols would make AoS more fun.

Pretty much the same thing. Adding a weapon that won't help very much.

Also, the other one had more posts. :P

^ have you even read the OP of this thread, how much more detailed and comprehensive is it then the other one?

Plus this is wayyy older, i wrote this ages back.

Why? There's another perfectly good pistol thread right there.

THOU SHALT BE RISEN FROM THY GRAVE!

GATHER THY BONES

SHAKE THE EARTH FROM YOUR FLESH!

THREAD.....REVIVED 0_0.....

EDIT: annnd b4 i for get BUMP sorry for the necro post but i was directedh ere and decided to make a comment /EDIT

drop out of the thyme of ww2 guns? we have a freaking heckler and Koch MP 5 pretty sure the Germans did not have that during the last world war.

my determined idea under the pistol build is that a pistol ought to be a firearm that has unlimited ammo but deals less damage then a pick axe

but if you fallow this model a some one i played with once stated some of the things he enjoyed in games : sniper rifles, machetes and big tasteless revolvers.

in my mind there ought to be a choice of three side arms

1 pistol
in my mind this had a sorta CZ 75b appearance (my vary favorite pistol) with a kinda unique iron sight lay out here i will post it
16 round capacity
say 12 damage per shot
recoil = to .58 smg
and 1200 rpm cap but its semiautomatic
IRONSIGHTS:
http://eastxander.deviantart.com/#/d493nl1

2 SILENCED PISTOL
like standard pistol except only deals 9 damage for body shot
dose not give hit direction indicators and is capibal of one shoiting peopel if you shoot them in the back of the head. its bullets only go 25 squares and then becoem subject to dramatic bullet fall off how ever if ammo recovery is enabled for picking up simmilar weapiosn the silenced pistol will NOT be resuplyable by standard pistols and vice versa thsi firearm uses sub sonic rounds instead of standard 9x19mm

REVOLVER
a 6 round pistol that has high recoil and deals 24 damage instead of 12 per body shot
all other trates are the same this pistol uses a diffrent kind of 9mm ammo: .357

all head shots are x3 damage for all pistols

A Colt 1911
Standard Issue pistol since 1911.
Or a Glock17 as thats pretty standard too.

Honestly, I think a Mauser would be good. If we drop out of the theme of WWII on guns, then I would prefer a Mauser. If we go to a different war (further in time), then M1911.
If Mauser...
Either 6/10 Round Magazine. Comes with a full magazine + 30 extra.
30 - Head
20 - Body
17/10 - Limbs

If M1911...
Comes with 7 loaded and 35 spare.
35-Head
23-Body
16-Limb

i think that making it a weaker but faster firing rifle would be a good idea, but just in terms of stats. 3-4 headshots seems good, but enough recoil so it is not too easy to kill a lot of people with it. a machine pistol would be cool, but i think only if there are going to be multiples of the same weapon, like a burst assault rifle, then a full auto assault rifle, and maybe some very high damage/high recoil one.( i do not really agree with this idea, but I am just saying if a machine pistol were to be added, then maybe there should be more variety with the other guns)

Here's an idea. If the oft-discussed idea of heavy weapons like squad light machine-guns or grenade launchers is implemented, players selecting these to start get a sidearm instead of grenades. Personally I'd go with a choice between a slower-firing but more powerful weapon with a small magazine (preferably not a revolver for a change) versus a lighter, high-capacity weapon that can fire nearly as fast as the player can pull the trigger. (A Colt M1911 or a Browning High Power, perhaps, to fit in with the Second World War-to-early Vietnam aesthetic the game has taken on of late?) Maybe a machine-pistol of some sort would also work, though if we go with that idea it should have even worse muzzle climb than the SMG and absolutely chew through its ammunition.