here's emodes
http://www.mediafire.com/?j28q955iy5qk3rq

moved soldier buff to sniper and assasin's every second bullet does damage(simple tick/tock mechanism)

dunno what to do with the soldier though.

"Why doesn't everyone hate what I hate?

I can't understand why anyone would like something different! Surely everyone is the same?"

That is what most of you are sounding like now.

If we all liked the same things, everyone would be playing tetris or something.

What is the point in these threads? No amount of reasons is going to make you say "Oh I understand now, thanks for clarifying" You just want to bring people who like classes down.

As for the classes and TF2 argument, wow, because everyone likes the way classes are done on tf2. Plus everyone who likes a particular thing (classes) is only allowed to play the one game most associated with it...

The mode needs some work to be good. Right now I just switch to solider for less damage.

I love the classes mode :P and i been supporting Jojoe's map since Shaft :D

Also i hate squads... random noobs always join because i get highest in that team or sumthing and they always ruined my plans -_-

And thats why im always by myself.. :]

and JoJoe i love your idea :DDD

Artics:
how would you change classes?

By Vanilla I mean no gameplay changeing mods. Squads are fine, as are maps.

^and the only vanilla ones are gen maps :(.

I like your server/maps Jo, but I think one should be vanilla. I just find it annoying the only servers that have alot of people/Are stable are the goon haven ones which have rather bland maps and Class servers.

Also, one of the main things that I don't like is the unrealistic things, like invisibility and teleportation. Makes no sense to me :/

btw no offense at all to thoser who play on/created the mod, its just annoying when theres not enough people to play vanilla games.

i hate classes server with people who dont change classes
Ergo, the headshot resistance for the soldier is not fixed, which makes them hard to kill, and its OP said it didn't count for head. The worst part is that its the DEFAULT CLASS. All those deuces, who don't know English/how to change their classes are harder to kill.

^

Good or not?

There is one class that is actually possible, and 2 more that are partially possible. The rest isn't technically possible.

Out of these one makes a little sense, the others just are not good.

joe, count your chickens before they hatch.

Well of course not silly, this is not quake.

I was saying I wanted Your_Self to do the changes. I dont want a hacked script. Your_self put a lot of work into the classes mod. I dont want to take the spotlight off him by rewarding people who just add a few tweaks to his work, and call it their own.

If I wanted a hacked script I would just do it myself. (with Your_self's permission of course.)

you can't make it quake fortress, period. not even close, not even closer, it's nothing like that and it will never be anything like that, if you want quake fortress, why not play, I don't know, how about uhh.... QUAKE FORTRESS?

All no, but I can do the shortcuts it's been done before

I am trying to bring the Quake fortress gameplay to AoS.

It will not be 100%, but A move in the fortress direction would be cool.

They really blew it with TF2 and the cartoon player models, and the "EVERYONE STAND IN THE HALLWAY TOGETHER AND SHOOT" gameplay.

We are already getting close, it just needs a little refinement.

I am aware some of my requests are not possible yet... Just putting the ideas out there... who knows someone might figure out ways to make it possible, and start their own unique mod.

^Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

I have 2 servers running it. I am going to need to get a third. People just cant get enough of it.

When I asked if I should try another mod, I thought I was going to get virtually lynched. Almost everyone said "NO!!" in unique and colorful ways I cant repeat here.

Your_self did a great job on mixing up the game play.

Some things I would like to see.

**Engineer:
SKILL:craft ammo...
Class mines X amount of bricks, and with the /AMMO command he gives ammo to every team mate in a 5-20 block radius.
Caveat: automatically supply X amount of ammo if no damage taken for X amount. (small radius around player)
PERK : can build structures (like the current medic does)

**Medic:
Skill: Craft health...
Class mines X amount of blocks, with the /HEAL command to heal every team mate in a 5-20 block radius.
Caveat: automatically supplys X ammount of health if no damage taken.
PERK: Can "conc" jump... player throws grenade in front of them, and jumps. If they time it right they only receive 50% damage... too late or early you blow yourself up. Conc jumping should blast the player in a direction... somewhat like a jump-pad

** Heavy:
Skill: Spray enemy with SMG fire. Cannot move while shooting, and takes 50% more damage from grenades than other players. (his ammo explodes)
Class gets 300ammo with SMG only. Slow reload time. clip holds the whole 300 bullets before reload. Total of 900
Caveat: Adjacent players get a minor health perk to promote defense, or team work during offense.
PERK :more health than usual , but is a slow moving target. Head shots receive same amount of damage as torso when taken by this class. (no one shot kill, needs to be 2-4 shots in face to kill.)
Can also use shotgun but SG clip only holds 2 shots.

** Ranger-scout
Skill: runs fast! dies fast. this guys sole mission is to get the intel, and get the hell out of there.
Caveat: Can conq jump like the medic, only gets more of a boost.
PERK: can kill heavy if point blank with shotgun+headshot.

** Soldier-
No change- FIX the ammo exploit when switching from the SMG to shotgun or SEMI.

** Assassin -
No change except gets to use shotgun, 1 shot clip. Makes louder footfall noise while invisible to make it fair on players without INVIS.

** Sniper unchanged except they make an audible noise when they teleport to level out the fairness. also WEAK can be killed very easy because no Armour.

** Explosives guy-demo guy.
Only has grenades (shoot 4 before slow reload 20-50 total). can launch grenades further than normal players.
Have regular grenades, and "Proxy" grenades that sit for a few seconds and explode if player is near. (proxy grenades can only stay for a few seconds, and they only get 1 or 2 of them before slow reload)
No grenade damage taken from self. Insta-kill if hit by any grenade splash damage.

**BERZERKER- same as scout, only no gun, and can instakill if they come to a complete stop, and have enough time to hit the victim with a shovel.
Causes lots of damage to players with pick.
Explodes automatically when close enough to heavy and soldier causing big crater, and lots of splash damage. can be insta-killed if near any splash damage from explosion.

** Survalence-
Can fly to gather information on enemy, can not shoot unless is on the ground.
Standard AoS loadouts for this guy. Instakill from any damage taken while flying.

**ALL CLASSES- can heal nearby players with shovel or pick... they can only do it a few times a minute like in Killingfloor. (not everyone plays the classes)

Can cook ammo like the engineer, only it is for themselves, not as much ammo, and more blocks to mine before can cook ammo.

I would also like to see the /MODE changed to /CLASS so it is easier to remember, and people have a better chance of guessing it using logic.
A smaller word would be nice, but it should be descriptive of the function it preforms if you think of one.
an acronym would be cool too so they can either type /CLASSES, /CLASS or /C to do the same function. can be as minimal or verbose as the person using it. XCHAT uses acronyms and it is very nice :)

ok so you want to move the soldier buff to snipers

ok I half the assassin cloak time and allow every second shot to come through

^Remove the soldier buff, unless you give snipers some sort of armour piercing.
And let assasins use guns.

If you guys think you can do classes better in some way, tell me, I can do it :P

I don't like:
Soldiers defense buff, makes the rifle irrelevant. And this class is WAY overused.
Your_Self listens to NO suggestions :(, thats why the assasin is un-loved.

I like:
Invisibility :3.
And sniper teleportation... sometimes.

@OP: I don't mind the class mode, as long as there are servers still playing the vanilla/ TDM game types then I'll be happy.

people have suggested classes over a gazillion times
also you have mode you like and those you don't like

i dont like search and destroy but assassin in class mode feels like im playing spy in TF2 except people are easier to kill (read: builders)

i look forward to juggernaut and FFA

i dont really mind them, it was really a basis for modders so people can make there own ... thats why its open source...

its a different flavour tis all :D

If you don't like class mod, don't play it. Simple as that.

Lol, that was unnecessary. You have to play it to find out if you like it or not. And obviously nobody will play it if they don't like it.

I enjoy class mod because of the soldier class. I love having the ability to swap from rifle to smg and back (shotgun is useless imo) without having to respawn. Plus, I like squads because it adds frantic exciting gameplay (battles where two squads fight each other in one area for an extended period until one side takes out all the opposing soldiers before they can respawn on each other). The other night, I was playing shaft, or fortsomething or another, and I was on green. The blue intel was literally a few steps from our green tent. But there were like 3 or 4 squads camping it, right there in our own fort. It was a fierce battle that lasted a good 10-15 minutes until I managed to get the intel to the tent.

If you don't like class mod, don't play it. Simple as that.

I hate classes. It's just a mess, a poorly executed mess. It just makes everything confusing and blah... I don't like it at all.

NEWSFLASH! Not everyone likes the same things.

Because they are stupid.

Beats me.