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I think we should have a mounted machine gun. BEFORE YOU LOSE YOUR SHIT AND START RAGING AT ME WITH HERPS AND DERPS, KEEP READING. I know this idea has been done to death, but every time I've seen it I can see problems arising everywhere, but I think I've solved them all. The machine gun should take 5 seconds to set up, can only be set up with a wall 1 block higher than where the player is standing, take 5 seconds to pack up, and make it so when it's set up, you have to wait 60 seconds before taking it down to make it less overpowered. EDIT: It also doesn't damage blocks, preventing Deuce and his best mate Deuce, from tearing up an entire structure. It should have an ammunition supply of 300 bullets (sounds like a lot but at 500 rounds per minute, it goes faaaaaaaaast. EDIT: Once out of ammo, the gun disappears and spawns ten minutes later back at your team's tent. To make it even more balanced, and to promote teamwork, it should have one person aiming the gun, and another person firing it. I.e the first person to go to the machine gun once it's set up and use it (press E) - is the Aimer, the second will be the Shooter, as this stops people from just racing to it and having it be first in first serve, people have to actually think about how they're going to go about this, and who does that. The Shooter should be able to see what the Aimer is looking at with a small screen that pops up near the center bottom of the regular screen. There should be a maximum of 1 of these machine guns per team, and it should spawn near each team's supply tent. The gun would also have to be destructible/capture-able when unmanned. I.e the greens have a nest set up overlooking a valley between two mountains. (inb4 titfuck joke) I apologize for the essay above, but really to make it non-ridiculous and keep the realism and fun, I had to do a lot of thinking, reasoning and problem solving and mainly typing. Tl;dr? FUCK YOU, READ IT. |
#25912 Master Paradox Member Posted 14 years ago |
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^no, i didn't. Just one guy is okay. |
#25914 Mr.Kaputtnik Member Posted 14 years ago |
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That would mean some Deuce retard could take it and run off by himself to the enemy base, set it up thinking he's good and get absolutely massacred, essentially giving the enemy the gun. |
#25920 Master Paradox Member Posted 14 years ago |
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so basically there's no reason to use it at all ever |
#25923 Lokiamis Member Posted 14 years ago |
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What part of it isn't useful? |
#25925 Master Paradox Member Posted 14 years ago |
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Loki kind of nailed it. Also, most of the machine gun suggestions that I have seen nurf its usefulness. Especially when it comes to accuracy. Obviously, making it as accurate as the standard rifle would be ridiculous, but it should at least be as accurate as a hip-fired rifle. |
#25926 POMF Technological Solutions™ Director of Renovations Posted 14 years ago |
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-The superior firepower? -The superior fire speeds? -Both its defensive and offensive capabilities? -help people to take on an unbalanced enemy team? the rifle is better in every situation |
#25928 Lokiamis Member Posted 14 years ago |
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A .9mm hollow-point is bigger and would do more to a person than a 7.62 used by the AK-47, yet the AK-47 has much more firepower due to the amount of lead it can fling at someone in a very short amount of time. What does the accuracy and mobility of it have to do with fire speed? A well placed MG with a good team can absolutely fuck ten people running at them... |
#25929 Master Paradox Member Posted 14 years ago |
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"A well placed MG with a good team can absolutely fuck ten people running at them..." Well yeah, if they're not trying to shoot you. Two blocks stacked vertically is hard counter to this gun. |
#25934 Lokiamis Member Posted 14 years ago |
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I'll explain what I would do in a little story: |
#25935 Mr.Kaputtnik Member Posted 14 years ago |
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@loki @kaputnik |
#25936 Master Paradox Member Posted 14 years ago |
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@Master Yeah I know. |
#25938 Mr.Kaputtnik Member Posted 14 years ago |
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"A .9mm hollow-point is bigger and would do more to a person than a 7.62 used by the AK-47" 1.) Wrong. Even with the expansion of the hollow-point round, the 7.62x39 packs much more kinetic energy but is also "soft" enough to ricochet off of bones. 2.) An AK-47 has vastly superior accuracy and firepower at much greater ranges than a nine millimeter. It seems like these machine guns that everyone is proposing would only be efficient if the enemy is standing 5 feet away from you. Any farther than that and the person manning the machine gun would get their face sniped off. |
#25939 POMF Technological Solutions™ Director of Renovations Posted 14 years ago |
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If two people go off with the MG, people will WANT to do the firing and will follow in order to try and either fire it or help guard it, if nobody fires it, the guy carrying the MG who set it up, can always carry it back to base and let somebody else use it, or just bail and use his rifle like everyone else. As you said before Galaxy, "it should at least be as accurate as a hip-fired rifle." The 7.62 would just go through a person, .9mm hollowpoint are designed to use almost all of their energy inside a person and stay in the body in order to not kill anyone behind them. Also, I wasn't comparing accuracy... the fuck? |
#25941 Master Paradox Member Posted 14 years ago |
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why cant we just get a COLT 1911....or COLT 1912 Springfield Armory |
#25950 GeneralE Commander in Arms Posted 14 years ago |
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Pistol or massive machine gun. |
#25951 Master Paradox Member Posted 14 years ago |
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"In order to be any threat to the MG crew, they'd have to expose themselves to it." Yeah they would have to move a few inches to the side and headshot either of the immobile targets. "Ten people hiding behind a wall is a lovely time for an ally with a couple of grenades" Double click your mouse, that's how long it would take somebody to kill both operators. They would never need to hide. "then if they ever came out from behind the wall and just ran at the gun, they'd probably be obliterated unless they got very lucky or actually had some sort of plan to get behind it." Yes and they'd be obliterated if they all ran onto the same block where you threw a grenade. Unfortunately the other team often does not consist of lemmings. |
#25952 Lokiamis Member Posted 14 years ago |
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