too much recoil
too weak
they are uncontrollable
it's impossible to hit from afar

or no?

That is true

or no?

Wrong, a gun does not turn a player into a noob and only a noob would complaine
about a gun. SMG is only for close range, THATS IT. If you want you can just your pesky rifle and dont whine about it. Also I have to say that I enjoy to see someone trying to hide behinde a wall and then to destroy the wall along with killing him.

1. Recoil is fine if you fire in short bursts.
2. I don't see how they are weak at all.
3. Try using sights to aim with, instead of running around going HUURRRRR.
4. They are not meant to be used from afar, thats what rifles are for.

Surprisingly, this game requires some skill to play.

SMG is for close range

hmm...have you tried...i dunno....using it properly?

Since he only posted the cons, I'll post the pros.

- Good at short range
- Automatic
- only 3 hits to the head to kill someone
- More accurate when fired in short bursts
- Great for defending
- Can be used to break blocks in quick succession

Anymore?

I don't see how 3 hit headshots is considered a "pro"
If you're just going to fire in short bursts, just use the rifle.

I'd consider it a con if Smgs killed with one hit to the head.

Well, 3 hit headshots isn't a pro either,
and the recoil is inhumane for a SMG.

1. Pro compared to the OP, he says that it's "too weak" and it's not.
2. This is a game, the recoil is used for balancing.

the recoil and power DOES make it weak. If you're playing against a skilled person with a rifle, the smg always loses.

Have you even used the smg? I've used both guns enough to know that they're balanced enough for me.

^Agreed

You can easily get kills at medium range all they way out to fog distance with the SMG.

^ same with rifle.

Yes dynasty, that's what makes them balanced. They both can shoot at long ranges.

The weapon is still new, before long people will become better with it and it will feel like a normal part of the game, just watch.

smg rules you all suck

The SMG is an OK close rage gun, but it's the comparison to the other gun that makes it look terrible. The semi still overpowers it in many occasions, not to mention that there are almost no close rang encounters in this game...

I think I've been killed by an SMG like... four times ever. Seriously.

The only reason the smg is anywhere close to useful is because the rifle has been raped. If it had its old accuracy back, the smg would get wasted every time from far away.

Also, the rifle is better at point blank range because it only takes 1 head-shot.
As it stands, the rifle beats the smg most of the time, but the smg works sometimes.

I, personally, feel that the rifle needs its old accuracy back, and the smg needs less recoil and 2 hit headshots. That would make the rifle always better far away and the smg useful in a small number of situations, but excel in them, just like smgs in the real military.

If you don't like cookies, get your hand out of the damn jar.

I personally think the SMG should also have one-hit headshots.

You guys are aware this recoil makes sense because our player model doesn't hold a gun correctly, right?

To balance the SMG, why don't we reduce the recoil some and instead give it more spread like most games do?

The SMG IS balanced, you're just not using it well asdfzxc.

give it more spread!, hell no it has to much spread as it is.