Just to get a conversation going, Many people are asking for a Bolt-Action rifle, with high damage and accuracy. What are your thoughts on this Request?

Pretty sure we already have a bolt action rifle with high damage and accuracy

I just want the old semi back, with no hit spread. Either that, or have Mr. Aksoy code wind and shit into the game to make sniping hyper-realistic.

Personally, i think that the current rifle should stay, but that we could add a more reliable Assault Rifle (Perhaps 3-burst, so that there is still a reason to use the SMG) But i would need suggestions to make it not too overpowered. There couldn't be crazy recoil, like the SMG, but there could be perhaps a damage reduction at range, and low ammo since it is a 3-burst, you won't be needing alot. The weapon will have to have to be 2-3 bursts to destroy one block, or else a 3-burst would be WAY too greifer-friendly. This idea came to my mind, mainly because i do make gun skins, and it would be cool to have more variety in what kind of gun you could have, without having 50 different guns.

Normal rifle, definitely.

Deuces don't care since they couldn't snipe for crap before 0.54 and so nothing changed for them, but for more skilled players it's annoying. I liked it a lot more when I didn't have to crouch and stand still while sniping. It's a blocky game goddammit, stuff like realism belongs in Arma or something.

Also, server side hit detection at first looked like perfect improvement for game, but now I can only play on servers 500km from me and less. When I play on UK server for example, hit detection fucks everything up. And that's not only one random UK server, I literally can't play anywhere, but Polish and German servers. Game also lags significantly more, maybe SMG's fault.

I'm with you on that, Drury.

dinosaur mode :D

Next topic: Equipement: Do you want sort of like the way you choose a weapon, aka on the screen you press 1-2 to choose your gun. Some people want an extra selection, for example to choose between a knife, a Grenade and maybe a pistol. If a pistol were to be implemented in the game, it would have to be extremely low damage, terrible range but not alot of recoil, because that would be hard to kill someone who has an smg in a tunnel, walking back to base for ammo. it would need to be fast-firing, but with a delay between shots so that people will not use modds(Seriously i have a program called joytokey so that i can use my xbox360 controller to play, and one of the settings is to have a continuous mouse click going from 0-30 clicks per second i mean WOW)

Plus server-side hit verification (yes, verification, not detection) doesn't remove all the hacks from game, because almost in every one I'm playing, there is at least one infinite ammo hacker. Which is the most common hack.

I'd like as a new feature now finally map resets, with a vote which appears at the end of the round: ''Do you want a map restart? Type /y to participiate'' or something like that.

And then the weapons to drop for a minute maybe in death, which would be pick-able :)

What are your thoughts on equipement/3-burst weapons?

All I really want, is for enemies to have a random chance of dropping small health (20, 30 health?) and ammo (20 for SMG?? 10 for semi??) pickups when you kill them.

What we need is a new pistol and a freaking FLAMETROWER. The bolt action is way to overpowered and the semi is just OK (tough it seems that its accurecy have been reduced in the 54 update, I had my scope point blanc on a blues head while he was not moving and still I missed him like 3 times -_-) .
Also I would be realy happy to see knifes in this game because shooting someone from close range with the semi is freaking annoying.

We don't need knives, we need pickaxe to hurt dudes.

And we don't need flamethrower. I have no idea where you got that idea from (lol), but that weapon does not work with games like this.

Maybe some vehicles ......like some kind of boats or just some choppas

1) Fixed lags
2) Good, old semi

In order of importance:

1: Restore the rifle's accuracy.

When sneaking through the enemy base, my life should depend on my skill at aiming alone, NOT some stupid luck based aiming cone.

2: Make the SMG's accuracy the same as the 0.54 rifle.

That way you at least have a chance of landing your first shot on target. Offset any overpowering by tweaking the recoil into a steady upward movement, or NO recoil, but reduced power. Not to mention the current hip fire on the SMG is so bad it shouldn't even be in the game. Rifle hip fire accuracy all the way.

3: Reduce, but don't eliminate the SMG's griefing ability.

Just three hits per block or so will make a world of difference. Players will have to actually aim at the blocks they want, and so maps won't look like a cheese grater 5 minutes after starting.

4: Server side Hit detection

I haven't experienced this too badly but many have, and I've seen it too. One of the best features of AoS (and a virtually unique one at that) is that players from all over the world could play on the same servers and usually have a smooth game. SSHD has really disrupted that.

5: Pickaxe causes damage to enemy players

For obvious reasons. I probably wouldn't use it, but it would satisfy those that would. People would stop asking for melee weapons, at least.

6: Make a different hit sound for SMG fire.

That sickening thud works well for high power rifle rounds that could kill you in one shot, but when it sounds the same as an SMG hit it can be deceptive- you can think you're getting hit by 4 riflemen at once when it's just one guy with an SMG. So give it a distinctive sound so we can tell the difference and plan our defense accordingly.

7: Make the intel icon rotate again.

It was... good?

All I really want, is for enemies to have a random chance of dropping small health (20, 30 health?) and ammo (20 for SMG?? 10 for semi??) pickups when you kill them.

Yeah I agree with this, especially if it's randomised, like Minecraft's animal item drops. It can give you just enough ammo to keep going, but it's only a short term solution.

And also I think SMG should have different tracer. Wouldn't be too hard to implement and would make game a bit more moddable.

Yeah, that's a good idea too.

I agree with Beret.

Beret has the right idea.

@Beret: Not sure how I feel about making the SMG more accurate and/or lower recoil. I think I actually prefered the really innacurate one from 0.53, I found it to be pretty well-balanced. Obviously you've had different results than I have, but based on the fact that a majority of the other players I've seen in-game have been using SMGs, I'd say the SMG is a little overpowered.

That might stop if the accuracy stays the same and the rifle goes back to being realistically accurate instead of screwy like it is now, but I don't want or need the SMG to be any more accurate than it is at the moment. If it was, I could potentially snipe people all the way to fog, even on open water (the one environment that, for now, I'm no good at with the SMG and need a rifle unless the other guy also has an SMG... in which case generally neither of us can kill the other for a pretty long time).

I do agree with everything else you said, though. Especially making the rifle pin-point accurate again... it's only realistic for a rifle to be accurate at that sort of range. The render distance is less than 100 yards.

Comanche Mode Plz

@1337101
>anecdotes (which are nothing like my experience)
>requesting a nerf of an already underpowered gun
>implying that you're some kind of master marksman who is far more skilled than any of us

Conclusion: You're full of crap.

Beret's right, any real rifle will be almost perfectly accurate at the AOS "fog distance" (100 yards? plz). If you went to the range any uncertainty would be from your own AimFail.

Also, we can't have pick damage without shovel damage! Those things are like really short, dull swords on a stick. They should do 20-30 pts damage, at least.

@asdfzxc: I'm not even going to respond to that trolling.

I think that the SMG is pretty good already, but I agree with Beret on making it so the first shot at least lands where the iron sight is, or just very close, because sometimes it is kind of off. However, the recoil is fine, it is really not that uncontrollable. Also, about the ability to destroy things, I think it is actually good, but would probably fit better on a larger machine gun, if one ever gets added, which might not be a bad idea, if it is done well.

I think the shovel doing 20-30 damage is alright, but it might be better if it is an instant kill from behind, just so you can actually sneak up on people without having to shoot.

I am not sure what I really want in the next version, I guess bug fixes are fine, maybe melee damage if it is optimal at this time

If you want to talk specific damage values for the tools, I'd say make the shovel as damaging as the rifle and the pick as damaging as the SMG. The numbers might need some tweaking later on, but those values occur to me as a good starting point.

@Kaede-chan post #40977
I wouldn't like added wind and stuff... if you want hyper-realism you can go play Battlefield3.

@Drury post #40982
Yes, They should make the Semi a bolt-action rifle again. Making it a semi just ruins the sniping aspect of it, and so does the crouching.

@PineApples
wtf?

@0U7BR3AK post #40987
I think if we ever add more weapons like pistols and shotguns, you should be able to choose which 2 weapons you want to take in. This can give a sniper his (hopefully) bolt-action rifle and also a pistol should his sniping post get stormed.

@Monsteri
Yes i would LOVE the map restart feature!!! I just HATE insanely messed up maps. like, all the bridge maps? -.- all the bridges are torn down. and remember hallway? :O

@0U7BR3AK post #41006
3 burst weapons... interesting. like the M4? Would it have medium/close range with little more damage than the SMG and less recoil? Sounds interesting. I was thinking also randomly placed machine guns. They could use your SMG ammo, so you can't just camp out there all day, you would have to travel back to the CP to get more ammo. Mortars, anyone? :\

@Kanye
Yes, that would be a good one to have, especially health. I would defenitely agree to have that. Would they drop weapons too so you can switch out your weapon if you don't like it? (That is, if they implement more weapons) So like Black Ops-ish?

@The Mighty Comrade
Yes, a flamethrower would NOT work here. Imagine all the stuff the game would have to be programmed with. People burning, flames shooting through the sky... no. We don't need knives either, just make pickaxes do meele damage. OR we can make GUNS do meele damage, like Medal of Honor? (good times :D) That's really fun to do.

@General Eisenhower
I could agree with that... But vehicles travelling on blocky surfaces? If you can make a smooth riding vehicle over the surface, then I would be for it. The Vehicles would have to take damage, though. So when one vehicle "dies", another would respawn where it started. It would definetly have to be so that you can still shoot the driver, but not as easily. This way people can't just drive up to the intel, get it, then drive back unharmed in the safety of their block running beast. Another problem would be people keeping it for themselves, so i guess people could teamkill each other for it :\

@Beret post #41071
I agree with almost everything you've said. I would NOT like the SMG to have the same accuracy as the current semi rifle. That would make it too good of a sniping weapon that it isn't supposed to be. I think a smaller spread would do the job just fine. Also, I didn't know the intel icon actually rotated! This would be good so we actually KNOW which intel icon on the screen is the real one.

@Drury post #41077
You can tell if it's an SMG by the sheer mass of fire coming out of it, but I guess we can have different tracers for modding purposes.

Oh, and something that I noticed, can we make it so that there's no grass and dirt like minecraft? like when you put a block on the "grass" you know and you take it off, there's "dirt"? Well that just looks really bad on the maps. All you see is splotches of brown on the grass. If we just take that off the maps will look just nicer.

So this post is probably long enough, i might have more to say later XD

@ch1k3n123: The reason for the dirt effect is that the voxel engine saves on memory and CPU by "forgetting" about completely surrounded voxels, since there's no way for a player to interact with them directly. Making the engine remember these voxels will slow the game down.

Im liking the Idea of after you kill some one they drop health/ammo. The pic axe doing damage sounds like a good idea aswell. The bolt action with high damage sounds good. But it would have to be really high damage, like almost a 1 hit K.O. and putting a scope on that bad boy would b nice to, where you can see further distances.