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goddamit i hate the cone! |
#43314 Flame Member Posted 13 years ago |
@Flame: I cannot help but agree with you. :/ If you're really pressed to kill someone from afar, take body shots. |
#43322 JosephAllen129 Imperial Guardsman Posted 13 years ago |
No. You may hate to miss, I do, everybody does, but gameplay-wise this is the most intelligent thing Ben has done so far. The semi having a small cone of fire is equivalent to shrinking the player's head, something I've seen suggested a few times. Choosing where to aim now involves actual decision-making. Structures such as bunkers and foxholes become useful, whereas before they wouldn't make you any safer at all-- you'd always aim for the head anyway, which you could hit with 100% certainty. Plus, it gives way for an actual sniper weapon to be introduced later. |
#43343 hompy Member Posted 13 years ago |
Not only that but the SMG now has a chance to get in a little closer to enter the 60 block range so it can actually hit some one reliably. |
#43348 Exile doux élitiste Posted 13 years ago |
Yeah, I miss old sniping. |
#43349 DustMako Member Posted 13 years ago |
@hompy: |
#43350 TheGrandmaster Moderator Posted 13 years ago |
lol my name is ninjapro69 and i still hit 80% of my headshots |
#43352 ninjapro69 true ninja Posted 13 years ago |
I told you guys, we've reached level red. |
#43378 Drury Numbuh 27.5 Posted 13 years ago |
@ Flame, I used to be really good at sniping too. I was like a medusa because if you poked your head out enough to see me, your face would get partially turned into lead. Still, I wasn't as good as this guy. |
#43424 MegaDeuce This is not a title. Posted 13 years ago |
Ninjapro? I met him. He is beast. @MegaDeuce - Holy shit. |
#43427 YourMom *BANNED*Gregarious Posted 13 years ago |
hats off to that deuce. holy crap, dude. |
#43453 Exile doux élitiste Posted 13 years ago |
@Hompy: So you approve of a "mainstream shooter" method over something that might, for once, resemble real life rifle combat? |
#43455 1337101 Modifier Posted 13 years ago |
I seriously haven't even noticed a different. I can get headshots from far away jsut as easily as I always could. |
#43457 MИЩa Touché Amoré Posted 13 years ago |
Probably because you were a shit sniper to begin with. So, instead of making the heads smaller, and allowing players to hone their sniping skills even further, Ben decided to nerf the rifle. I'm sure most of the idiots in this thread can't see the problem with that, so here it is. Having a smaller head means that an enemy would have to be particularly good at aiming to get a headshot. Having the rifle spray in random patterns (and with the onset of "server-side hit verification", it's even worse) regardless of the actual skill of the sniper means that it is based on luck, which (in case you are a little slow) is not a good thing. Even simpler: Having a smaller head = takes skill to land a headshot (player controlled) Having bullets spray in random directions regardless of aim = takes luck to land a headshot (not player controlled) Unless of course, Ben is forcefully trying to turn this into another mainstream shooter. BUT REJOICE!!!! Ben has already admitted to his mistake and specifically said that the cone of fire for both weapons will be lowered in future updates. Whether or not the rifle is going to get its original accuracy back is still uncertain though. |
#43466 POMF Technological Solutions™ Director of Renovations Posted 13 years ago |
Yeah, it's terrible. Arbitrarily degraded accuracy doesn't require skill to deal with, just makes things frustrating and unfun. I don't know to what degree it's the cone or server-side detection, but I really really hope Ben reverts those changes. Why does every game have to be call of duty? |
#43490 WEEDBOT Member Posted 13 years ago |
@Galaxy |
#43493 MИЩa Touché Amoré Posted 13 years ago |
Just about anyone who was actually an above-average sniper notices the difference between 0.52 and 0.54. If you haven't, you were most likely garbage to begin with. And I think I've slaughtered you before anyway, if "artificialbox" is your in-game name. |
#43515 POMF Technological Solutions™ Director of Renovations Posted 13 years ago |
While I can't compare the rifle's accuracy to before, seeing as I started playing AoS not long ago, I do agree that the server side hit detection sucks. Really. Badly. I've headshotted people as many as three times (and SEEN the bullet hit them in their forehead, not just thinking I did because that's where my crosshairs were.) without them dying, only to have them one shot me in my trench. And I do also agree with 2 things: 1. The rifle should have a cone of fire. 2. It should not be NEARLY as big as it is now. I've shot with my crosshairs on one dude only to hit their buddy a block or two away. While quite amusing the first time, it gets really annoying after a while. Especially when they don't have a buddy with them. |
#43635 VFB1210 Member Posted 13 years ago |
@artificialbox: I'm with Galaxy on this one. For those of us that have good aim, the new system sucks. |
#43642 1337101 Modifier Posted 13 years ago |
It's all luck now. Skill and a steady hand helps, but no matter how good you are, you are never guaranteed to hit anymore. It's bullshit. |
#43644 Kaede-chan (かえでーちゃん) Imageboard Moderator Posted 13 years ago |
Well then. I have done barely any sniping since the new update so maybe I haven't noticed. Also.. Your point? "0mGzzz i'm a bEtt3r sn1p3r den U cuz I kill3d u aLo7 of t1m3z b4" |
#43648 MИЩa Touché Amoré Posted 13 years ago |
Since we have the cone can we increase the player size yet? |
#43653 Noire Member Posted 13 years ago |
"Your point? "0mGzzz i'm a bEtt3r sn1p3r den U cuz I kill3d u aLo7 of t1m3z b4" " Yeah, sorry about that (and the rest of the harshness in my post). That was a pretty stupid and irresponsible thing to say. I was in a prickish mood yesterday because SOMEONE (I WONDER WHO IT COULD HAVE BEEN??!?!?!?!!11) decided to remove my custom title. @VFB1210 I completely agree with what you've said about the whole server-side BS (the same exact thing has happened to me regarding unregistered headshots). |
#43657 POMF Technological Solutions™ Director of Renovations Posted 13 years ago |
I don't know about you...but I'm the mood for an icecream cone right about now... btw: GOD DANGIT RIFLE CONE YOU MADE MY SNIPER 1337 SKILLS HIT THE FLOOR!!1!!!111! |
#43663 SpazDragon1397 (コバルト) The Badass Pony Posted 13 years ago |
@Hompy: I didn't say that it wasn't a good move though, just expressing how much I miss my perfect accuracy. ;_; @Kaede: Not really, if you're aiming from really far (say the fog almost swallows up your target), take body shots. At least it'll make things easier. :P P.S. The nerf isn't THAT bad, I can still rack up lotsa kills but not as fast as I used to. :/ Looks like I'll have to adapt again, and I got so used to the perfect accuracy thing too. :P |
#43664 JosephAllen129 Imperial Guardsman Posted 13 years ago |
how much are SMG body shots and head shots worth again? :D |
#43717 PineApples The PineApples Posted 13 years ago |
Rifle - 1 SMG - 2 - (3?) |
#43719 Spengbab Moron Posted 13 years ago |
It's like a pyramid, only rounder. Welp, can't wait to get my 1337 skills back, or kinda. It' still going to be a cone, albeit reduced. |
#43746 SpazDragon1397 (コバルト) The Badass Pony Posted 13 years ago |
Once you get used to the firing cone, it's not so bad. ;/ I still miss my perfect accuracy though. @Spengbab: I could've sworn I saw a few guys head-shotting me with a SMG. Only took them one shot. :/ (I had full health if I recall right.) |
#44574 JosephAllen129 Imperial Guardsman Posted 13 years ago |
I love/hate the thing. It adds realism and some fun to it (makes it more of a real rifle, not a sniper rifle) but its almost too accurate for a normal rifle at ranfe of the Fog of war. It should be more innacurate to be a "real" rifle, and Ben adds a sniper rifle (99% accuracy, slightly slower Rate of fire, 50hp damage anywhere, 100 for the head) |
#44602 [MLG]Nowa90 Rifleman/Modder Posted 13 years ago |
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