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    First of all I must say, I like Ace of Spades. I think a lot of people had this idea, it's nice to see it actually there. Now I don't know how did the author come up with this idea, but let's assume he wanted to do make non-realistic Quake 3/Battlefield mash up with fully destructible environment, whilst having considerable performance on pre-Q3 era PCs.

    So I also assume wanted to add the sandbox component, by making it look like Minecraft, where 1 block is about the width and length of your torso. It's a good idea and I support it. However the block is dull and the whole technique leads to a very big, graphics mess. And the whole problem raises when some of the terrains have a horrible colour palette. Like web-safe horrible.

    So I suggest making it look like this:
    http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/2768/aosk.jpg
    Now I know, this is clearly photoshopped, but what I wanted to demonstrate there is this:
    http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1724/cubeze.png
    Instead of this:
    http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9909/cube2u.png
    Man I'd be happy at least with this(this was one of the rendering modes of voxels in a raytracer):
    http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/1184/cube3.png

    Now I know this may be a hard thing to implent. But the gameplay is as far as a beta can be. So I suggest, no I demand that you will start working on something that will at least balance the colors out and make everything much better to see. Gameplay first, Optimization second, Graphics third. It's time for graphics, come on! It's a real mess, just look at it, that's low!

    #80154
    Dany0
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    NO.

    #80155
    S0ldi3rKr4s0
    Combine
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    what youre asking right now is a complete overhaul of the entire engine among other things. while i have no beef with oh say, doubling or quadrupling the res for guns, players, etc, doing what youre asking....no. itd also make it so "your grandmas rig" could no longer play it.

    #80156
    Fluttershy
    Yellow Pegasus
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    Flutter:
    Are you **** kidding me.
    No, I am asking it to return to the original format. Have you ever even played the voxlap demo? That's at least 16x the voxels per per pixel.

    It's not hard. And grandma's rig can still run it. Why? Because Voxlap was built on what would be considered grandma's rig today.

    Do not even bother outraging me even more, BRONY! That's an insult!

    (now all respect against the creator's work I just think it's about time to start working on the graphics side of things, as this is a shame for voxels! Just a little, please! It's such a mess! The least you could do - add supersampling! Come on! Just for the sake of it!)

    #80164
    Dany0
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    This game was designed to be like this, not like modern games of today with a fuckload of graphics.

    #80166
    S0ldi3rKr4s0
    Combine
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    Y U SO DEMANDING?

    On a somewhat related note, what does everyone think about changing the ingame model render method? In slab 6, there's different render methods, the default is that every block shows as a 3D cube and I'm pretty sure that's how everyone keeps it to develop models. In game however, it uses the "bounded cube" method in which blocks do not show as 3D cubes, but as flat squares that always face you. Wouldn't it look better if they showed as actual cubes? They would probably look a lot more 3D and would match the default sight PNGs in which the model of the gun appears to be made of 3d cubes.

    #80171
    [HK]SLAYER
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    Because voxels were supposed to be the graphics revolution, the one I've been waiting for so long. And when, I finally see a popular voxel game, it sucks. Now the gameplay is as far as a freelance alpha can go. But why did you downgrade the graphics so much. Voxelstein 3D runs on grandma's rig already. And that's 16x the detail! I don't demand extremely realistic graphics, I just want it to stop being SUCH A MESS. At least tell me it's on your todo list.

    You don't get it. I don't want it to be this:
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/37244146/Elephants.jpg

    I want it to be this:
    http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/468/49302311.jpg
    Instead of this:
    http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8292/cb2j.jpg
    BECAUSE THIS IS LOW, VERY VERY LOW.

    #80178
    Dany0
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    >Because voxels were supposed to be the graphics revolution

    UNLIMITED POINT CLOUD DATA!

    #80180
    [HK]SLAYER
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    Yes, YOU want it to be that, so make your own damn game, everypony else wants it to be how it is right now, and we're all happy with it, this isn't 3d voxelstwhateverthefuck, its Ace of Spades, the maker choose for it to be this way, deal with it.

    #80189
    Luna
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    Slayer:
    No don't bring this sheningans up! I am voxel fan since 2004 and this is an insult!

    Luna:
    BROOONYYYY NOOOOOOOO
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

    #80192
    Dany0
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    Not even a brony, dude...

    #80196
    Luna
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    ok lets put it to a vote everyone

    option A
    Ben "improves" the graphics
    future updates take longer to come out
    about a month or so (possibly more) of no updates while he does everything necessary for conversion to the higher res.

    option b
    everything stays as it is now so ben can continue working on cool stuff thatll be released faster than if we had gone with option A
    the simplistic graphics stay the same.

    #80203
    Fluttershy
    Yellow Pegasus
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    option b

    #80206
    Luna
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    Brony:
    this can't take more then a few hours, at worst.

    #80212
    Dany0
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    @Fluttershy Option B
    You want better graphics?
    DON'T PLAY ACE OF SPADES.
    Ace of Spades is meant to be like this, so get out NOW.

    #80217
    Shadow
    Slenderman
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    I have a good idea
    If you want it to be like voxelstein.
    PLAY VOXELSTEIN.

    #80220
    KomradeKevin
    Dah Bawss
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    ^^^
    Dat
    Stick with the graphics, the more it's like this, the less douchy people play this game. Off Topic: You may not be a brony, but Luna is tied for 1st place against Fluttershy.

    #80494
    Bobbunny
    Teh One Bunneh
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    what are we tied over? .-.

    #80533
    Luna
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    Awesomeness?
    No idea.
    Only avid watcher.

    #80536
    Bobbunny
    Teh One Bunneh
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    Everyone will agree to Option B.
    DEAL
    WITH IT
    YOU TWAT
    .

    #80555
    S0ldi3rKr4s0
    Combine
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    Then make your own fucking game. We like AoS this way.

    #80770
    outwrangle
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    No. It should either be extremely straight or extremely curved. None of this halfway jagged NES shit.

    #80781
    Pvt Ryan
    Gold Member
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    The maps are already a gigantic download. The protocol would have to transmit hundreds of times the data during play to still be working at a single resolution.

    Simply put, it would be unfeasible for internet play, unless you cheat and use the existing res and then smooth it out on the client - which would simply make it a rendering effect.

    #80798
    Triplefox
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    I say Option B :3

    #80823
    [AB]DemonFoxClove
    Mini Moose
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    You people really have no knowledge about the voxel universe. Also any MLP fan opinion equals zero and anyone who supports it as well.

    But good news everyone, I am currently discussing with the guy who created this http://www.qubicle-constructor.com about if he could add a *.kv6 *.vox and *.kvx exporter.

    Now I don't know how Ace of Spades implementation works, but if it's out of one solutions I think it may, then one of the possible solutions would actually decrease the XML size.

    And you all should first study something about it, period.

    #80881
    Dany0
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    Option b.
    Dany0 give it a rest, no one is agreeing with you, we prefer the game how it is. Your're also being weak and pathetic, when Fluttershy or Luna posted you slammed there opinions, just because they had MLP pics. You find something you can exploit about someone and then you rub salt into there wounds.
    I don't like MLP but do you see me being insultive?

    #80883
    [EX]Frosty
    Best Served Chilled
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    Frosts got ya there....
    I have no Problom with MLP, I dislike it but you don't see me hatin fluttershy.

    I approve her point.

    #80890
    [AB]DemonFoxClove
    Mini Moose
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    @ dany0
    EPIC TROLL TIME

    u mad? i ask you this question. u mad?

    if you really want a better looking game GO PLAY FREAKING MINECRAFT WITH SDK MOD.
    Don't go around being Nazi and saying i want this and that and if i don't get it, ill kill/gas you.

    ...u mad?

    #80893
    PaperBox
    Idiot
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    Imagine this:

    A man walks into a bar, and says hey people, I hate football!

    So he sits down.

    And David Beckham comes in and the man says "hey david! you can't play! This is how you play football! *shows*

    And no one valued his opinion.

    And so I don't value an opinion of a MLP fan no matter what. And if it'd matter I'd say that he has no knowledge in this problem and therefore, his opinion still doesn't have any value!

    I don't insult anyone. Being a MLP fan is an insult. So a MLP fan insults himself!

    *tadaa*

    Or okay, imagine this, if Microsoft had a meeting, and Steve Ballmer would come in make a presentation about sparkles in a pink suit with butterflies, who would value his opinion? Oh no one, because no one values his opinion anyway.

    EDIT:
    And one more time, I don't want a better looking game, I want the developer to repair the mess, to make it work and look like real voxels, I am pointing at a very bad realization of a concept, that needs to be repaired ASAP because the game is unplayable. That MUST be done before more time is wasted on gameplay because no super shotguns will repair visual mess.

    #80894
    Dany0
    Member
    Posted 13 years ago
     

    @paperbox
    wth is the SDK mod?

    #80895
    [EX]Frosty
    Best Served Chilled
    Posted 13 years ago
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