its a idea stat list for 3 diffrent guns, a 9mm a 45.cal and a revolver:

gun A:
Range: semi efficent at medium range but efficent at short range
Ammo: 12a or 15b rounds a mag and 48 or 70 maxs
Dmg: 15a or 10b with a cheast shot 8a or 5b to limbs 20a or 15b to the head
"How good it hits": vary good
a is verion 1, b is version 2. a is a bit more dmg but less ammo and b is vice vers
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gun B
Range: less efficent at medium range but efficent at short rage
Ammo: 7 rounds a mag 35 max
Dmg: 20 to the cheast 15 to the limbs 34 to the head
"How good it hits": not realy good or bad
END

gun D
Range: bad at medium range but good at short
Ammo: 5 in mag 20 max
Dmg: 50 to the cheast 34 to the limbs 100 to the head
"How good it hits": not good
END

pleas comment on what you want/dont want.
thanks for reading.

ps this is an idea about the stats of 3 difrent pistols IF pistol where added

How about we just have a Deagle Brand Deagle.

yeah why not, its just an idea

How about no pistol? A sidearm would be pretty useless in this game.
Especially when we got lag on most servers and unbalanced weapons to deal with.

I like this Idea :)

thunder try a server with less ping, as for the weapons yes i agree they are unbalaced but let not get to far off-topic, ok?

Well what's your reasoning for having a pistol in this game? I fail to understand why its necessary.

^^^
Cause you run outta ammo?

I once suggested the pistol be a primary weapon.

@thunder

cuz y'alls gotta kep da cripz n bloodz outta yo turf somhow

*ahem* read this: http://ace-spades.com/forums/topic.php?id=5012

>Revolver, 5-shooter
>5-SHOOTER
The only 5-shooter is the Smith & Wesson Model 500. (Also extra note, it's the most powerful handgun.)

For all you know, he could be talking about the Fallout New Vegas Hunting Revolver.

yeah :) or the AoS Super magnum XD

@khan

He's trying to refer to a RL weapon. but usaly one would say a 6-gun or a 6-shooter, like a colt single action: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Single_Action_Army

about the revolver, i was trying to balance it sins the 45. got 7 rounds so i fealt like six rounds could be too powerfull

All I know is, if anything, there should be the LeMat revolver. Not only does it shoot .44, it also has a shotgun ability that shoots 16 gauge shots. inb4 "we already have a shotgun".

Instead of implementing a weak secondary weapon that I can guarantee will rarely be used, maybe just for humiliation purposes, we can loot corpses for weapons and ammo.
That also solves the problem of "what happens if I run out of ammo", which I can guarantee will still happen if you implement a sidearm.

Khan that sounds cool, I WANT ONE!!!!
and about "what gun is what" it can be what ever you want, if you want a Smith & Wesson Model 500. or a Fallout New Vegas Hunting Revolver. its all up to YOU.

Thunder but what if ther are no corpes near by and you need to kill some one to get ammo, what are you going to kill him with? your empty rifle?

--ante185 wrote--
"Thunder but what if ther are no corpes near by and you need to kill some one to get ammo, what are you going to kill him with? your empty rifle?"

If you've been killing people efficiently and looting their corpses already, an empty rifle would have never happened.

He is right, even with a sidearm, you'd still be screwed for ammo. Everything runs dry eventually when the only way to restock is about five miles behind you.

If we are still on the subject of a sidearm, I think that an old .44 would do just fine, like a Colt Anaconda. Six shots, meager damage, tolerable recoil, good accuracy, and thirty shots in the reserve.

Unless you really suck and managed not to kill anybody with your 60 rounds of rifle ammo (which meant you ever got their ammo), wasted your grenades, then use the pickaxe to murder them (on a pyspades server on vanilla if Ben ever gets around to implementing it.)

(forgot to press send post, above poster pretty much said everything I wanted to say)

the pistole would be a really cool idea, it will make it so much cooler to only use that and still wIN

it should be some generic semi-auto handgonne, i think

Again.
Anything on my take of a primary pistol?
Hm?

Interesting idea. But RL soldiers don't run around with pistols. Maybe Police Officers, SWAT officers, UN Peacekeepers, but not soldiers. If you want a pistol, reskin one of your guns. Rifle can be a super accurate magnum or other high powered pistol (Five SeveN?) and the SMG can be dual Glock 17's or something.

I'd just like an LMG so i'd have motivation to make an MG42.

i said :
"Thunder but what if ther are no corpes near by and you need to kill some one to get ammo, what are you going to kill him with? your empty rifle?"

ive just want to ask ONE thing: What hapens to the corpes when they have bin on the ground for a while???

@Thunder
Yes but it does solve a balancing and usage issue. Pistolers could be faster, have more nades, or other stuff.

@ante185
They disappear, but of course Ben could always change it. This stuff isn't set in stone you know. He could make it last for 20 minutes if he wanted to. It'd be nice if it stuck around until it was looted

@Bobbunny
But carrying around a pistol as a primary OR secondary weapon isn't realistic. If you were playing as Officers of the Army and not soldiers, maybe. Plus giving them more grenades will make the pistol a griefing tool, with being able to move faster, shoot faster and have more grenades (to blow stuff up).

go play battlefield with a sniper and try to dont get killed without a pistol

^ This game isn't battlefield, and there isn't a sniper. We're talking about resorting to a pistol when you run dry on ammo, which could easily be circumvented with the ability to loot bodies.

Also, if you manage to get yourself into a corner with a sniper rifle, you're doing it wrong.