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Read this: http://ace-spades.com/forums/topic.php?id=6101 First off) What he is suggesting is legally defined as "entrapment" Secondly) entrapment is ILLEGAL Brief explanation as to why: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100919064344AA7aUz8 By using "entrapment" you are causing ppl to fall into the "honypot" who otherwise would have nothing to do with it, In short: you are taking innocent ppl and inciting them to commit a crime. So as mentioned in the linked thread at the top of THIS thread, no the forum will NOT use a honypot technique, because is it entrapment and entrapment is against tthe law. Granted no one is breaking the law here by trolling/flaming and bullying others, but still thier is no neeed to begin a honypot which would result in the mass banning of a fair portion of the player base. The admins just need to patrol the forums and delete the flaming/trolling/bullying posts and then ban the perpetrator for a certain length of time, and increase that for repeat offenders. We DONT need dumb, borderline illegal systems like "honypots" just need the admins to do their job better, thats all. NOTE: i mean no offence to you admins, i respect you guys and you are a credit to the game, you just need to be doing MORE is all. thanks for reading, - DE |
#99239 DeathEnhanced The Grand Exterminator Posted 13 years ago |
The fact that someone would even think that the people on the forums would endorse this is fucking retarded. |
#99245 Pulchritude MACHA Project Posted 13 years ago |
^That |
#99247 Soap Member Posted 13 years ago |
You spelled honeypot wrong just about every time. |
#99311 Luna Member Posted 13 years ago |
Entrapment was once Illegal in most of the USA, but now it is not. Only law enforcement can commit entrapment. Before you call people stupid, turn on your spellchecker please. It is really painful to read what you are saying. Also try proofreading before you post, you could have summed everything up in a few (complete) sentences. Checking your facts would have removed a huge portion of your post. Registration will do exactly what I explained there, only it will do it automatically rather than have the admins do it manually. Global bans are going to make this a much better game, and invite more admins to host. No more grievers, no more bitching, just fun game play! |
#99492 JoJoeStinky Stinkious Maximus Posted 13 years ago |
But if its automatic wouldnt it only see ban material as black and white/ good or bad stuff rather than other conditions? |
#99573 Luna Member Posted 13 years ago |
@jojoe You miss the point, instead of banning the select few, a system like your proposing. Would indiscriminatingly be targeting masses of players. For instance if they use the keyword as a demonstration of what happened to them Or use it just one time? THAT is why we shouldn't use it. - DE |
#99576 DeathEnhanced The Grand Exterminator Posted 13 years ago |
Oh jeez, we've got people doing stupid shit again. |
#99646 Papa Khan Warchief Posted 13 years ago |
Why someone saying "nigger" or some shit like that really affects the game that badly is beyond me. |
#99659 ReubenMcHawk Renovator Posted 13 years ago |
I am not proposing any system, The forum mod already said they where working on the register thing. Bcoolface has always come through in the past for us. Go back to the original thread and read the thing, Like you are directing everyone else to do. You will see what I said. Saying stupid stuff on servers does not effect game play. I just like fucking with redneck fucking trash. So what, some black guy with a huge cord stole your girlfriend? Rather than pick on children, Why dont you go out and find a (insert racial slur), that is bigger than you, and pick a fight like a man? |
#99707 JoJoeStinky Stinkious Maximus Posted 13 years ago |
^ |
#99709 Thunderstorm Member Posted 13 years ago |
It's white, not Caucasian, stop trying to act/type/sound mature. |
#99717 Luna Member Posted 13 years ago |
Umm, no it is Caucasian, only albinos are white.: +1 for poofie 1980's hair, spandex, and hairbands, and caucasian dudes wearing makeup! |
#99718 JoJoeStinky Stinkious Maximus Posted 13 years ago |
It's terrible that people are saying things like n*gger anyway, thought it's mostly used by 14 year olds who think it makes them sound cool. But anyway a system like that wouldn't work. I say damn alot(being one of the few people on the internet that have f*ck in each sentence) and if that is part of the honeypot, i'm screwed(damn not really being bad). Besides there are always conditions and it can't tell if you say sh*t like "Aw sh*t son!", or "F*cking sh*t retard", it simply wouln't work. /two cents |
#99720 [EX]mman789 that dude Posted 13 years ago |
ITC: Retards. |
#99727 Pulchritude MACHA Project Posted 13 years ago |
"Before you call people stupid, turn on your spellchecker please." |
#99740 Kanye Hipster Posted 13 years ago |
Of all the places you could use as a source, why Yahoo Answers? That's not much better then, "my mommy said it was true" |
#99743 WoggleGoo Member Posted 13 years ago |
#99744 DeathEnhanced The Grand Exterminator Posted 13 years ago |
I was saying only abusive people... My server has no rules on language just behavior. Racial shit directed at children is inappropriate no matter how you slice it, so i ban them as soon as they do it. i don't see why anyone would be against a register system. It protects people on the forums too, Look, some people are joining as impostors... Registering would eliminate this. We all know and love Boss here on the forums, so here is my first example of how things can escalate.: ["Boss", "200.127.41.176", ": abusive behavior", null] IRC log: And here is someone impersonating a ROT member: ["<RoT>Pwn-Hammer", "74.101.32.49", ": Said racial slur.", null] <pyspades> * <<RoT>Pwn-Hammer>Because you suck at it. Let me have the intel nigger. Anyway, I have seen lots of people from here with multiple player names and tags. It is obvious someone out there is impersonating people. Having the register thing would defiantly fix people slamming peoples names on servers. Impostors really suck. People are even doing it with my name, on my server, WHERE I ADMIN!! They don't seem like the smartest lot. |
#99764 JoJoeStinky Stinkious Maximus Posted 13 years ago |
First off, Pwn-Hammer's in RoT. Second off, I highly doubt that first person is the real Boss. And third, it's cool that you don't want racial slurs on your server. But to make it customary seems a bit too far. |
#99807 ReubenMcHawk Renovator Posted 13 years ago |
Like I said at my lunch table last year: |
#99818 Viper Member Posted 13 years ago |
@Viper... So true... XD <3 Yeah, my family always interrupts big arguements with this statement, one much like yours: "Okay, let's all go to our happy place now guys, with rainbows, and unicorns, and flowers, and butterflies, and candy, and..." It basically goes on infinitely. Then someone yells and the fight resumes. =w= @Everyone The only true way to fight those kinds of people: ignore it. Let it slide, allow the antagonist to look more stupid, and be the mature one. You earn respect easily this way and defeat the d***head in a blink. But if you DO let it get to you and react incorrectly, then YOU'RE the one who looks stupid and immature. /rant |
#99820 Soap Member Posted 13 years ago |
Sorry about the mistake.... I knew it was not them (pretty sure i mentioned that in my post), ROT guys have always been cool to me and other players. Just some little kid obviously. Adults don't do that kind of thing. Well..., sober adults anyway. I am all for free speech. All I want to get rid of are abusive people. +1 for unicorns and rainbows and love! Banana chucking mean people suck! (Banana? might have been a monkey LOL!) |
#99821 JoJoeStinky Stinkious Maximus Posted 13 years ago |
Why can't we all just be friendly to each other? <:( I mean honestly, you can only gain more with friends, and making enemies and a fool of yourself... how does that even bring ANY form of satisfaction??? (EDIT: FOR THE RAINBOWS, UNICORNS, AND HAPPINESS!!! --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slO7dDwB9jA ) |
#99825 Soap Member Posted 13 years ago |
Yeah, I'm just saying I don't want "kicked for saying nigger" to be the norm around here. |
#99826 ReubenMcHawk Renovator Posted 13 years ago |
It's a good point, but I mean we shouldn't encourage literal BULLYING in the AoS community, that's just inhumane to watch someone threaten and hurt the feelings of another human without taking action and allow the jerk to cause the kid misery, especially in a game that's SUPPOSED to be fun... <:( |
#99827 Soap Member Posted 13 years ago |
Yeah, but there's a line between harassing someone and just saying "lol fuck you nigger". People always say "Lol saying "nigger" is SOOO edgy" but it's the people that react to it so harshly that give that word its power. |
#99828 ReubenMcHawk Renovator Posted 13 years ago |
LOL |
#99841 KomradeKevin Dah Bawss Posted 13 years ago |
the censorship thing reminds me of this: "No one is to throw any stones until I blow this whistle!" I highly doubt game play will be effected if we had to live without a few stupid words. Even Jehovah DISPROVES!! **Ducks and runs** |
#99855 JoJoeStinky Stinkious Maximus Posted 13 years ago |
So I said "Why can't we live in a world like a futuristic Ancient Rome?" Then I got an NCR grenade thrown at me. The point is, Ave True to Caesar. |
#99858 Papa Khan Warchief Posted 13 years ago |
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