I really like this game and it is alot of fun but its really hard to play with the amount of griefing that goes on.

Its not even that im building some huge structure. I can just build a regular little watchtower and a few trolls decide to completly seal up the place and teamkill me if i try to dig it out. and votekick/ban doesnt seem to work at all.

It is really taking alot of fun out of the game.

I agree I had this huge watch tower and this dude comes tears down the tower after trapping me in a block and blames it on me.

I also agree, it's getting out of hand, and ruining the game for me.

go play mine craft....

j/k i agree with you both. i like bridges.

Just wait till mandatory registration. It'll slow down A LOT. Won't be completely eliminated, but it will definitely slow down.

Well why would you build a watchTOWER in the first place... Towers aren't exactly the smartest idea in a game that has support-based physics implemented. Just make a useful pillbox or deal w/ it

Well, by that logic Corgi consider this: real life's physics are much harsher than the shit in this game. Buildings can stand on one block. Does this mean real people are dumb for building towers?

well people don't just pile blocks on eachother irl to make a tower. real-life towers aren't compared to easily destructible towers in AoS

and pillboxes are far more reliable since any actual construction required is just the roof and a few holes to shoot from. all sidewalls are pretty much just using a dugout inside of a hill/large vertical cliff. the worst they can do is collapse your roof, or take time to dig a tunnel into your box, which you can clearly hear which way they're coming from lol

You're missing the point where it's silly to just say "WELL THAT'S THE WAY IT IS, JUST DEAL WITH IT" when the game is a beta. I'm sure people in earlier times just gave up when their stick towers got blown over.

You're missing the point where it's silly to start yet ANOTHER thread with the same old griefing complaints, when Ben has already said that the teamkilling is a temporary thing until he can get a real anti-grief system in.

Nothings is right.
There are ~20 other threads about this (and in about half of them I've quoted Ben saying that teamkilling will hopefully be temporary until he has worked on a votekick UI).

(use the search next time?)

Just play on a map with a serverbot, even if there's only one normally up (the Urban Harbour one). It really does cut griefing down so much. According to whoever serverbot is, it's a feature that'll soon be expanded to all the maps.

The jist of it is that someone iniaties a votekick, serverbot explains it, and says type !yes to kick. You need about 8 people, and if you explain people normally do vote with this. Five kids were kicked in as many minutes at one point for being dickheads. It was GLORIOUS.

@Sample246: yeah, he should just DEAL WITH IT until it's fixed later. I mean, there's far more better things you could be doing for your team than sitting in a tower. all I really need is a wall to hide behind, or I just use already built buildings that people don't really give a shit about

@ corgi if your going to hound me about this it was a tower with many many supports leading to the ground guarding the intel. the only better thing to be doing for my team besides putting the intel in a hard to reach place and guarding it(which is exactly what I was doing) would be to go capture the enemies intel

Also im sorry if this has been complained about already but I beleive it is a rather urgent issue that really needs to be fixed. Also If I were to post in an old thread you would complain that I was necroing it.

Well if it wasn't such a large target and you just built a small pillbox, then they wouldnt set such a high priority on griefing your tower lol. I've been giving you suggestions the whole time, not "hounding" you. a wall with holes is as good as a watchtower, and fog cuts off any height advantages anyways

Idea: Every time you destroy a block built by a friend, the percentage needed for votekicking lowers by 1 percent.

So: Let's say you built a little house or something and the griefer destroys the 10 blocks that hold it -> your building crashes. But at the same time, you can get a votekick on him and only need 40% (since you start with 50%) of all players votes to kick him out of the game. Now if you enhance that mechanic and say "well the house originally consisted of 30 blocks and the griefer destroyed ten and then the other 20 just collapsed", you let the other 20 (that he didn't actually destroy by hand) count each as a half percent too -> 50%-10%-10%= 30% of all player's votes needed to kick him out.

Seems pretty fair to me.

like many suggestions like this, it could be abused by blocking important routes, then forcing ppl traveling along them to dig it out, thus lowering their percentage, until only the griefer needs to votekick to kick them, thus meaning griefers now have an easy way to kick ppl

well youve been giving me suggstions in a rather rude way with information you didnt have. It was a small watchtower that I used to guard the intel with and I rose it because there was alot of rubble in the area and with me being able to see above teh rubble would allow me to spot intruders better.

And your logic is failing. it doesnt matter if it was big or not. I built something and there was nothing better around so they griefed it.

there was a lot of rubble around. You could've just simply used the rubble as cover. I don't get why people even insist on building buildings in this game, since it's obviously not fit for it yet. and what info do i require other than knowing that you built a tower and my own personal preferences on building, because that's the only thing I've been telling you about LOL

RIGHT: http://i.imgur.com/OSAan.png
WRONG: http://i.imgur.com/zxCLl.png
IHOPEYOUARENTDOINGTHIS: http://i.imgur.com/p3AGt.png
btw the tower got griefed by the time I finished pasting it in paint

I have to admit
that tower is pretty neat.

Problem Mikethete? It's me Rango...

the point wasnt to give myself cover the point was to make the intel hard to reach. and if I had just decided to use the rubble as cover then intel would be wide open. You might respont "oh well the enemies could just snipe you then take the box, or you could just cover the box from a distance" but thats not the point the point is to buy my team time to defend the box because it would take time for them to take the tower down and run away.

The reason people build buildings in this game is maybe, and this might blow your mind, THEY WANT TO. It might not be all that efficient or practical but they like the idea of a tower to defend from or some huge wall or a giant bunker. Not everyone wants to metagame a game. I know this isnt minecraft but I personally find building a bunker or watchtower fun. hell I built a giant green flag behind a giant wall my team was building and it got shot to pieces the moment I finished. IT WAS STILL FUN TO BUILD.

Now going by the picture your saying I should have made a bunker? great idea. then enemies can tunnel straight under it and grab it from me. and what if they are multiple on them? and they block up the tunnel. oops now a tower is seeming like a good idea since they have to either knock the entire tower down (time consuming when well supported) or climb up (which is harder to do than in minecraft.

Now would you stop being such an ass over what other people like to do and get back to the subject of griefing. It doesnt matter what I did because its my bussiness people shoudnt grief just because I built something impractical.

and btw it wasnt impractical.

If you'd like me to talk about griefing, griefers will grief just about any building they see. It doesn't matter what it is. I'm just saying that stuff so complicated doesn't NEED to be built. Things that can do the same job and take a lot less effort/time to build are still going to get griefed, but at least you can remake it in hell of a lot less time. I don't get what you're going at, because it's fun to build something is why I shouldn't be giving you suggestions on something that I feel like using? you're getting pretty damn butthurt over me helping you. and if I seem "rude" or whatever, it's just how I explain things lol, I don't need to sugarcoat my sentences with happyfaces and exclamation points

seacrest out

you werent giving me suggestions. you were telling me how "wrong" my way of building was and how to do it the "right way" assuming that I had built some huge tower to snipe from. when in reality I had built a small tower to make it harder to capture the intel. now I dont exactly appreciate when somebody verbally barges in and tells me that what im doing is wrong and that I should do it the right (read: your) way.

Im not asking you to sugarcoat your suggestion all im asking is that you keep them suggestions instead of declarations. IMO you should have just kept your mouthshut about the towers peroid considering its not what the thread is about and were horribly derailing it so how about we just try to rerail it?

Stop greifing, happyness.
This thread is full of win.
@ corgi, i made a 15 block high tower with a 50x50 American flag behind it and it wasn't greifed for like an hour, umad?