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    We all know(actual players of this game) that griefing is beyond annoying.

    In the last days there have again been waves upon waves of TKers, blockers, griefers, kick abusers, etc.

    I suggest that a permaban list is made of people who are permanently banned from the game with the requirement of adding a person to this list being a recording of a person's griefing(including repeated and unnecessary TKing, blockers and kick abusers).

    I also suggest that each person has 1 account and with 1 IP address.

    Hopefully when the griefers can't return after having been permabanned it will calm down a bit, for I still consider the game hardly playable because of them.

    #40299
    Jacob
    Member
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    I'm really not in the mood to argue against those stupid suggestions tonight, but I'm posting in this thread (and therefore bump it, and give it a chance to be seen by some dev although I'm sure they won't care) because I really didn't understand the "each person has 1 account and with 1 IP address" part.

    #40301
    سيروا تقودو يا ولاد القحاب
    Devas
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    So we can ban them if they grief.

    Plain and simple.

    I don't care what they add, but griefers continue to ruin the game.

    This is a team game, if you have griefers on your team you are fucked(people are even more apathetic when it comes to vote kicking then 2-3 months ago).

    #40331
    Jacob
    Member
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    I'm out of this thread, goodbye.

    #40332
    سيروا تقودو يا ولاد القحاب
    Devas
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    If i was a griefer and that happened i would change my IP (Because i am hiding behind 10 proxy's and firewalls and i have tons of programs that change your IP).

    #40334
    Adolf_Hitler
    Member
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    "I'm out of this thread, goodbye."

    Pardon? Stupid suggestion? Well, present to me, sir internet tough guy, your solution to all the griefing, the abusing of the votekick system, the frequent TKing, the blocking, etc.

    "If i was a griefer and that happened i would change my IP (Because i am hiding behind 10 proxy's and firewalls and i have tons of programs that change your IP)."

    Registering over and over again, having to change your ip and etc. gets tedious pretty fast.

    Not even that, most griefers are simply to dumb to do the things you described and are most of the time a bunch of bored kids.

    Just getting rid of a majority of the griefers already helps.

    #40340
    Jacob
    Member
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    An account system would work well. Maybe charge a small fee to open said account? Say... ten dollars U.S.? It would definitely keep the griefers at bay, or at least the poor ones (fuck the poor)

    #40350
    Jerk
    Member
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    Well, apparently an account system to keep griefers out is an utterly ridiculous idea.

    #40356
    Jacob
    Member
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    its not tedious at all, with cyberghost, just connect to a VPN. just click a button and boom, your connecting.

    #40459
    KwF_10se1ucgo_x
    Tennessee
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    "I also suggest that each person has 1 account and with 1 IP address."

    You really don't get how IP addresses work, do you?

    #40506
    ReubenMcHawk
    Renovator
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    Nope he doesn't at all.

    #40510
    Adolf_Hitler
    Member
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    Umm, 1 IP-address/account, do you mean that the account would be tied to that one IP address and it could not be used from any other addresses or what..?

    #40523
    Arctic
    Member
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    Yes, I may not have worded it in the right manner due to my self being particularly tired and feeling ill(I rushed the post a bit).

    "its not tedious at all, with cyberghost, just connect to a VPN. just click a button and boom, your connecting."

    Most griefers are not willing to go that far, only a minute share of all griefers are actually dedicated and do that kind of stuff.

    Also, Adolf Hitler, you don't know me, I am well aware how IP addresses work, just because I worded it in the wrong manner and rushed it does not mean I am clueless when it comes to IP addresses.

    #40548
    Jacob
    Member
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    Hooking up accounts to a single IP address is a bad idea. It wouldn't do much against ban-evaders, but worse, every time a legitimate player restarted their modem they'd have to delete their old account and get a new one.

    Changing your IP is as simple as restarting your modem. It's better just to have email registration with bans against an account AND the IP that was using the account at the time. That way a troll has to restart their modem (or use a proxy, or any of a variety of other ways to get a new IP) and get a new email address to get back into the game. It's not all that hard to do those, but it takes a bit of time. If people can get kicked from the game quickly enough, they'll spend more time trying to get into the game than actually griefing.

    #40555
    1337101
    Modifier
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    Just leave the thread guys I told you that this is stupid.

    #40558
    سيروا تقودو يا ولاد القحاب
    Devas
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    "1337101: Hooking up accounts to a single IP address is a bad idea. It wouldn't do much against ban-evaders, but worse, every time a legitimate player restarted their modem they'd have to delete their old account and get a new one."

    That was not what I meant. Its not that you can only login in on that account using a certain IP address, it is that those two are linked and when the account gets banned the IP gets blocked with it(yes, I know you will still be able to get around it by creating a zillion accounts with different IP addresses, but even then you will run out of them after a while, if you haven't already stopped because it is so damn tedious).

    "1337101: Changing your IP is as simple as restarting your modem. It's better just to have email registration with bans against an account AND the IP that was using the account at the time. That way a troll has to restart their modem (or use a proxy, or any of a variety of other ways to get a new IP) and get a new email address to get back into the game. It's not all that hard to do those, but it takes a bit of time. If people can get kicked from the game quickly enough, they'll spend more time trying to get into the game than actually griefing."

    That is also an alternative.

    "Devas: Just leave the thread guys I told you that this is stupid"

    Why come back, for you already stated you would leave? Oh, of course, instead of providing valuable input, arguments, etc. you attempt to provoke a negative reaction(AKA trolling).

    Sorry, but I am just not impressed about your whole Internet Tough Guy behaviour.

    #40569
    Jacob
    Member
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    Say that to my face, not on the internet, and see what happens.

    #40572
    سيروا تقودو يا ولاد القحاب
    Devas
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    Don't underestimate the sheer dedication trolls have anywhere on the internet, that's one of their qualities. Not all IP addresses are static, in fact most aren't and it is horrible practice to tie a user/account to a specific IP with the intent of using that as an effective way to ban somebody. Another thing to realize is that an IP is not necessarily the same thing as a person. It's quite common for multiple people to use the same IP, which leaves the chance of all of them being banned for the actions of a single person.

    Here are some of my thoughts regarding the registration system idea that's been floating around.

    #40578
    StackOverflow
    Key Master
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    "Say that to my face, not on the internet, and see what happens."

    I am starting to have my doubts regarding whether you are actually serious or not.

    #40583
    Jacob
    Member
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    And you better have not been serious about your stupid suggestions, too.

    #40586
    سيروا تقودو يا ولاد القحاب
    Devas
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    Please stop this nonsense and be serious for a sec instead of spamming the thread.

    ;}

    #40588
    Jacob
    Member
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    I assume you find Stack stupid too?

    I tried searching for this but nothing turned up.

    #40590
    Jacob
    Member
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    I hope that you did enjoy the lecture before my post got deleted, Jacob.

    #40593
    سيروا تقودو يا ولاد القحاب
    Devas
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    I did read it(it was about this being suggested before).

    Did you make another post after that?

    #40597
    Jacob
    Member
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    Nope, but there was a story included in that post for your own personal entertainment, I hope that you enjoyed it.

    #40599
    سيروا تقودو يا ولاد القحاب
    Devas
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    <snip>

    #40600
    Jacob
    Member
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    @Devas: Pyramid-scheme spam-kiddieness? That's new from you. Usually you're just mildly trollish in an at least somewhat intelligent way.

    Frankly, I think a lot of this junk you've posted needs to be deleted.

    #40604
    1337101
    Modifier
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    I'm just trying to see if it'll catch on here... Which it doesn't.

    EDIT: the story got deleted again :( sad.

    #40616
    سيروا تقودو يا ولاد القحاب
    Devas
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    Requesting thread cleanup

    #40618
    Jacob
    Member
    Posted 12 years ago
     

    This thread had to be cleaned up since the moment it was posted... Bad suggestions everywhere.

    #40619
    سيروا تقودو يا ولاد القحاب
    Devas
    Posted 12 years ago
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