For the discussion of the upcoming .55 update release. Discuss weapons and other possible goodies to come along with the update.

Has anyone heard any rumors as to when it's coming out? With the new news thread Ben posted, I'm feeling soon. Also looks like the shotgun has won, somewhat to my chagrin, because I think a knife is cooler, really. Shotty basically covers melee and more, however.

Shotgun already won.

I thought so.

Also, Ben's fixing the accuracy on the semi and the SMG.

Shotgun already won.[2]
Well,the first-shot pinpoint accuracy of the rifle and I think that of the SMG is said to be implemented.

Oh so the accuracy is going to return to normal? That's great.

Also, "shotgun already won shotgun already won"

But only the first shot,firing automatic or fast makes the spread return.

How do you know this? It isn't anywhere obvious...

Yes it is. Keep looking.

I'm a ninja.But,well,this is what folks are saying,I'm not sure about it.

Right. I don't frequent the forum, which is not as obvious as the front page. So no, it isn't anywhere obvious.

um i definitely saw it..... i know follow these steps

Step 1. Cover one eye with one hand
Step 2. Squint real hard with the other eye
Step 3. Look again if u dont see it still go to an eye doctor

jk XD - just hit the news tab it says it right there

I think it's in the Ben's Answers topic. Basically he said that the first shot of a weapon will be perfectly accurate, and every shot in succession will spread more. It's more realistic IMO.

I double checked it, both news posts by ben, and they say nothing as specific as what Chaos_BR said.

@Doodrgn I agree. Realistic, and convenient.

http://ace-spades.com/forums/topic.php?id=4155

""Can we expect any more experimental changes to functions of current
items in the game like with the rifle's accuracy?"
-Sue_Sakamoto

Yeah, I want to implement a more dynamic accuracy system where your
first shot is on the mark but continuous fire will slowly increase the
cone of fire. Also, I think a dynamic crosshairs would help indicate
how player movement and stance affect gun mechanics like recoil and
accuracy."

What makes me curious is the spread of the shotgun projectiles. How many will come out at a time? Also, the damage, and ranges it'll be effective at.

I do enjoy using the SMG to rip holes in enemy walls after a sniper barrage, but I wonder if the shotgun will be effective in this area as well?

The shotgun's firing rate and range should be less than that of the SMG's, so I doubt its block damaging capabilities. So it definitely won't be as effective as the SMG when it comes to tearing away at enemy cover. I'll be playing defense if I play with the shotgun.

I hope the shotgun's spread will be similar to that of a real shotgun. And the range too.

I think Ben said that he will try to tweak the SMG to be more of a medium-range weapon (thank god). Therefore, the shotgun will actually stand a chance at close range (assuming a rifleman doesn't lay you out in one shot).

Ben:
Rifle=Long distance
SMG=Medium distance (less recoil is what it sounds like)
Shotgun=Close Quarters.

I've suggested we have two layers of png images for the sights and one will drag like the rifle does and the other will stay still, that way it would look like a 3-D models sights!

Also I suggested we have a reloading anime by making a stop motion video out of kv6 files(this could also make the pump for the shotgun)!

Unnecessary suggestion. Cosmetics are the least of Mr. Aksoy's worries. Balance and game-modes come first.

Goldeneye.

I'll say it again.

Perfect Dark was better in every way.

Just saiyan.

'cept for singleplayer. Goldeneye owns PD's singleplayer

>implying you didn't use the dual controller co-op configuration to use dual-joysticks to play the game.
Your argument has been proven irrefutably invalid.

Damn Oddball...

CAN'T EVEN SHOOT HIM WHAT'S GOING ON

never said anything about the control configurations- I used the same setup in both games and they both worked perfectly fine.

Come to think of it- both games had dual controller configuration options too- so whatever point you're trying to make, I'm pretty sure it is invalid :P

when is it going to come out

Well, theres gunna be a shotgun and some range tweaking with the semi and smg...

And it sounds like the guns, or at least one of them will have the dynamic cross-hairs. Which I like.

@akseltorgerson I asked on the IRC and someone said only Ben knows. Meh. You should probably ask on monday. I wouldn't like to think that ben only started working on it after the poll and news posts, because there was a lot of time in between the release of .54 and those news posts.