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ok im now gonna go thought all the work of making this look fancy or anything stupid like that.
first of all lets start with the smg
the only thing that ruins this gun is the HUGE side to side recoil and its rather large spread so in my opinion both these factors should be removed and possibly increase the strait up recoil so it doesn't become a easy mode gun
now for the shotgun
ive heard people say they want to give it MORE spread and a ton MORE damage but that would be stupid cause if we are going for realism in this game (lul) its should have a little tighter spread and less recoil but possibly more damage so that you can get a little more range out of it
i also think they should release a sniper rifle and a assault rifle
lets start with the sniper
200 damage to the head hopefully giving it the ability to get collat kills and 100 damage to the chest and to add cool points make it able to kill with a hs through a block but really slow fire rate and damn near no spread unless unscoped then it should fire at a random point on the screen. yeah you guys will get insta-killed but it will be a good counter for the semi. should have a 5 round mag with a slow reload and a "mini" reload between each shot where it unscopes. also give it a 4x and 10x zoom so it will be used as an actual sniper
for the assault rifle
two hit kill headshot, 3 hit kill body shot and 4-5 hit kill leg shot. should have large up and down recoil and 'slight' side to side makeing it harder to use than the smg but have less spread than it.
now to bring the rage with the semi
tweak it a tad bit by adding 1 damage to the body shot making it a 2 hit kill and and lessen the spread a tad bit but add a little recoil. YES I KNOW THAT THE SEMI IS ALREADY OP but if all this stuff happens to the other guns it will balance it back into the mix instead of it dieing for the other guns being better

tl;dr you suck
NOW give me your thoughts about this please

I for one think that jetpacks should be added.

I like it Wyvern. And the sniper as i have suggested before should be bolt action. And the rifle should be 3 round burst.

sry but we already have a sniper we call it semi

@Master Khan that would be a beastly mod for certain servers but not for the whole game
@valen well im not too into the gun doing the bursting for you like in CoD because its unrealistic but they should make a manual 3 shot burts the most effective way to use it like making the recoil after the 4th shot unbearable so it wont be a spray weapon
@churchhill you cant snipe with semi anymore unless its pure luck that you hs a guy at fog range and i would like the sniper to be a little easier to snipe and less usefull and mid-short range possibly through a delay for scoping in so you cant rape a team of people by quickscoping then to death

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need more people to look at this and post their opinion

What? The semi is pinpoint accurate in the first shot, then it builds up a cone when fired repeatedly so what you said to churchil about " you cant snipe with semi anymore unless its pure luck " is not true.

well i personally find that hard to believe i still "feel" a little bit of spread on any and every shot especially at really long range
now please post agreements and disagreements with my first post cause i dont want this to become another thread arguing about the spread on the semi

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again
cmon AoS community i need some input

I have a similar thread to this already.
But...
Frosty approves the assult rifle +1

Umm wtf do u mean like CoD. M16 burst and full auto were way before call of shitty. So idk what ur talking about. And 3 round burst with SMG accuracy sounds good to me. It wont be OP. And wtf do u mean unrealistic!? M16 shoots bursts now because when it was automatic it would over heat. In early 'Nam lots of Americans soldiers died cas of the M16 over heating.

no i just gave cod as an example
in real life you can burst 3 bullets from the gun just by pulling the trigger once it either shoot 1 shot when you pull the trigger or will shoot full-auto

theres also guns like the M16 which are 3 round burst or automatic. And why the fuck would u bring up Call of Shitty into this?

Because COD is GOD (screw the G) *sarcasm*

wow. Best served chilled! HAHAHAHa

once again it was just an example
so please drop CoD please
i just think you shouldn't HAVE to waist 3 bullets when you could kill with 2 headshots
i just dont like the idea of the gun doing all the work for you

I said 3 rund burst so it wouldnt be like a rifle with some recoil. And you dont like the idea of the gun doing all the work for you. Then use a pick :)!

there is already a better thread for this: http://ace-spades.com/forums/topic.php?id=5464

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well yours and my opinion are not the only ones that matter
actually its probably only bens opinion that matters
plus i have a feeling your just here to snipe so i would prefer if this conversation ended
you like the idea of 3 burst and i dont
so thats that

DE, FUCK YEAH!

It's cause DE refuses to unify under thy master.

wow khan

@DE well he only covered about half what i did in his thread and i posted ways to near perfectly ballance them

well @wyvern youre wrong. Ben likes the community. SO i thin he would do things based on the community

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0&feature=related
Nah, but seriously I agree with most of that.

your opinions suck

give me more to work with people
no one has even tried to tear my post apart and put it back together
you only focus on 1 small part or as mman said "i agree with most of it"
just give me a little more Pl0x :p
how does the ability to kill 2 enemies with 1 shot or through a block with the sniper?
do you guys mind the slight increase in damage on the semi?
how about the smg side to side recoil?

Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has them. Now all of you, silence.

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