Nah, it needs recoil. It would be overpowered without recoil.

Imagine a no-recoil SMG. There you go.

(hell, why not infinite ammo? Nerf the damage a bit and it becomes fair). Also, it should fire as fast as you can click, which would make it a handy tool in some people's hands >:D.

I seriously hope you are kidding because you could destroy blocks very easily with that.

Also another idea:
No ironsight, you have to deal without zoom.

^theres an idea, make it so it can't destroy blocks. Thus, it is fair.

It should have ironsights, really. People generally don't go 'I am unable to look down the sights of this because it is a hand gun'. But if you make it a little inaccurate (somewhere between 0.54 rifle and SMG) it should balance that. Besides, the ranges people are suggesting mean that it's pretty useless at range anyway, so ironsights won't change anything.

http://operatorchan.org/k/arch/src/k36071_jap-pistol-nambu.jpg

I like the looks of this

Lets propose this.
Glock18: Low Damage - High rate of fire - 18 bullets
Desert Eagle - High Damage - Low rate of fire - 7 bullets
M9- Medium Damage - Medium rate of fire - 15 bullets

Also would a burst mode work?

I support Death's version, but I'd suggest changing the capacity to 8 rounds.

Also, have a model: http://i.imgur.com/PJdC8.png

It should be a 1911 (with iron sights). You should automatically have it in addition to the grenades (until they make a revolver then you would choose between them at the start up).

12 round mags (holding 5 total 12 round mags with you(60 total rounds)

Fast reload

Medium range

Low recoil

High rate of fire (higher than semi but not as fast as you can click)

Head 40 damage

body 30 damage

limbs 25 damage

(4 shots to destroy blocks)

@underdog:
You've been posting useless things lately, so watch yourself, you are warned.

As for the topic, a sidearm would be interesting, though I think there should be a gap before adding huge things now - gonna take a while to get used to the 0.58 changes.

I like the idea generally, though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Model_1903_Pocket_Hammerless
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1911_Colt_pistol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1917_revolver
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Official_Police
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_P38
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luger_Pistol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_PP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauer_38H
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_HSC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyse_M1907
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_C96

Pick your poison.
First half is US pistols, second is German pistols.
WW2 Style considering most of the guns used are used in WW2...

Ok so basically I get to choose a weapon which takes 4 HEADSHOTS to kill someone, or 2 grenades which can 1hko?

^ Nade's are very short range, and very limited in their effectiveness especially if your in a tunnel, id rather have a pistol then a hand-grenade while underground in a tight tunnel.

I'd personally like a Colt Model 1911, the WW1 version. But it's up to Ben. I know this game is not supposed to be 100% realistic, but I say;
Name: Fourty-Five (.45)
Capacity: Seven (7) rounds, with 14-21 in reserve
Accuracy: Reasonable out to half of your viewdistance, but possibly handicapped by a fat front sight (3 pixels wide), and a O crosshair with no dot in the center. Damage: 50-75 for a body hit, 100 for a headshot.

The damage is simply necessarily high, since it IS a fat, slow moving bullet. It'll be handicapped by sights that are hard to aim with at long range, medium-heavy recoil, and low capacity. I would LOVE to see this added in game. It should be standard with every weapon, with a possible exception to the shotgun, since it's more of a "Raiding" weapon, and should have some sort of timed charge with it.

I am currently working on a pistol pack. The introduction of a pistol would make my day.

^ Make a glock 17 =P

I already have. I have LOADS.

First of all, don't whine when your suggestion thread isn't getting as much traffic as you want. That's a good way to get people to lose interest fast.

secondly this claim:

You have grenades as normal and change to the sidearm by pressing a different key, but this takes away the whole tactics idea by making everyone totally versatile which makes gameplay a lil bit more basic, and less risky.

...couldn't be more wrong. Just because we'd have both doesn't mean we're wielding both at the same time. It'd be up to the player to decide what to hold in hand at any given moment- and the freedom to choose what they'll use at any moment based on the situation they're in at the time makes the game less basic, and more tactical.

As for the pistol itself, it doesn't really faze me either way as I probably wouldn't use it.

Thirdly, AoS needs jetpacks before it gets pistols.

Two things:

1.Sidearm

Side
arm

It sucks for a reason: it's not a main gun. Being a sidearm, it should normally lose to a main gun.

2. You can't make the sidearm shoot as fast as you can click, because everyone would bind shoot to the mouse wheel.

AoS needs jetpacks and detpacks. Also, flamethrowers.

I think that if we just put a .44 magnum in game everything would be fine

@kahn wtf why jetpacks? i completly disagree with that. We desperately need sidearms. I am constantly running out of ammo when im burried into a hill and sniping. im like OSHIT and i have to walk ALL the way back to the tent for more ammo or die. I completely agree we need a sidearm.

Because.

@Beret

im not saying hold both at the same time, by having the option to use grenades AND a sidearm it makes the player a whole lot more versatile. They can use nades throwing into cover, or if they run out of ammo they can then switch to the sidearm.

This means the player is capapble of adapting to way more possible situations, making them more versatile, taking away the tacticality of making decisions before entering the gameplay. An therefore making gameplay more basic as less tactics are involved.

@beret

I didnt whine, I was joking around, at the time I was talking to <@> mods and ben in the IRC and jokingly said it wasnt getting enough attention.

@pvt ryan

Im not introducing it as a main weapon, the function of the sidearm in AoS would be when your main gun runs out of ammo, you can switch to the weak last resort sidearm and hopefully make a few more kills before you die, or get you that much closer to the intel etc.

Let's start with getting our eras right.
WW1-Vietnam.

^ Yes, so a colt 1911 would be a good choice. Im not to fond of the luger.

^
I was thinking Mauser.

I say that the side-arm should be much weaker, 'cause no one would pick the nades anymore if the sidearm did more damage then the smg, then no one would pick the smg either, but i also think the sidearm should be slow, have infinite ammo, but every ten shots you would reload, the damage on the parts of the body should be:
Head: 20
Body: 15
Limbs 10
the reason for this is simple, it's for if your reloading, and you will die if you take to long to reload, but if it did 25-30 damage to the body, then it would be too over powered, infinite ammo, because if you only use it, when you have no ammo left to use. The recoil on it should be small, but not to small, because pistols are small, and shouldn't bounce too much when shooting. I think it should also be as fast as the shotty, 'cause any slower, then no one would use it, any faster would make it too cheap, and everyone would use it. So yeh, thats what I THINK it should be if implemented.
-Pinky

I quote ben askoy form the IRC last night "im thinking of a colt 1911" << I do believe he said exactly that, if those are not th exact words i apologise, but he difiently said a colt 1911.

D.E

I think it would be cool but the damage on head must be 60 because a headshot is instant kill but compared to the giant head that would be really easy. Then you put 60 head and the other normal stuff. Remember that this game is World at War 2 and not Modern Warfare so a colt 1911 would not be added soon as it don't exists. Ben should add a anaconda pistol or something more on the past. But cool ideia bro! Peace! =D